How many charts do successful traders use per symbol??

traderslair · Oct 22, 2011

I don't trade with charts.

I trade only on the DOM and a screen with T&S.

So I don't count ?

I'm not allowed to be in your survey? Maybe it's because my last losing day was so long ago I can't even remember exactly.

PushPull · Oct 22, 2011

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I'm not allowed to be in your survey?
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No.

trendo · Oct 22, 2011

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tighter

N54_Fan · Oct 22, 2011

I use

<img src="http://cdn.babble.com/famecrawler/files/2011/03/pi.jpg"> charts

LOL,.....HaHaHa,....Thank you.

I will be performing LIVE at the Comedy Spot from 10-11PM. See you there.

2 drink minimum.

Lucrum · Oct 22, 2011

A trading related thread - in the Trading forum?

Is that even allowed anymore?

deaddog · Oct 22, 2011

I use 3 charts; One time frame above and below the chart that gives me my set up.
I use the time frame above to confirm my set up and the time frame below for attempting to optimize my entry.

I chose other because 3 wasn't an option...

eusdaiki · Oct 22, 2011

Quote from traderslair:

I don't trade with charts.

I trade only on the DOM and a screen with T&S.

So I don't count ?

I'm not allowed to be in your survey? Maybe it's because my last losing day was so long ago I can't even remember exactly.
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agree. Charts are like a rear view mirror. DOM is like the windshield. Charts are use full as long as you remember to look forwardâ¦

tomdavis · Oct 22, 2011

3 = 2 time frames + market profile.

oldtime · Oct 22, 2011

Quote from Rashid_G.:

In my continuing battle to get consistent I am considering using only one chart to trade during the day.. 1000 vol, 5 min, 3 min, 500tick.. Whatever but just one chart. In the morning get key levels from the longer time frames and close them all.

I find seeing longer time frames while trading adds more information than I need and much worse, leads to forecasting turning points. In the end seeds of doubt cloud my day..

Ultimately I will settle on what works for me but how many do you use? Thoughts?
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how many tools should a carpenter use?

Rashid_G. · Oct 22, 2011

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Hello Rashid,

This is a question that invites many different answers as we have seen already. Each person asked thinks that his answer is the correct one and he may very well be right as there are many ways to skin a cat.

Further, your question is general and not very specific. Generally, general questions inspire general answers, and thus are not generally very useful in order to handle a specific problem such as the one you are facing.

However, by the charts you listed, one may assume that your methodology and time frame is day trading and if my memory serves me correctly you are trading one of the equity indices. NQ?

First, in order to choose a time frame, you need to decide how you want to trade and what it is you want to take out of the market on any given day. There is a world of difference between trading from a fast tick chart and a 5-minute chart.

Personally, I decided that what I wanted is to capture one or several of the larger swings that the market offers on a daily basis and move away from scalping. Why? Far more profit potential, less trading and less stress. For me, I find that the 5-minute chart captures these swings fairly well, so that is my main chart. I consult the 1-minute chart to look inside the bars for clues or to improve my entries/exits, but it is a secondary chart and may frequently provide fake signals, especially if one don`t know how to read it. For example, you can`t take a signal on the 5-minute and then exit too early on a retrace on the 1-minute. But if used correctly, the 1-minute will help you.

Actually, the 1-minute chart is a must during large moves, as the 5-minute bars become "too large", but generally the 5-minute alone can work just fine.

I then use the 5-minute/1-minute and that only during the trading day. Since I trade the ES, I also follow what NQ and YM is doing, but that may be a source of conflict as well. I rarely if ever bother looking at the higher time frames during the actual trading day. Only if I`m bored, but I prefer trolling at ET.

Actually, I don`t even use the higher time frames that much prior to the trading day either, as I find that most of the levels I need are visible on the 5-minute chart.

Prior day`s high/low/50%, the prior day`s pivot point and related levels, the current day`s evolving 50% level, gap fills, the open price, the close price of the prior day, overnight high/low/50%, etc.

If you trade the equity indices, you should weigh the cash session from 09:30-04:00 far more, since that is when the cash market is trading. Actually, I encourage you to try plotting only those hours on your chart. That will easily reveal the gaps as well.

What do you do if there is an uptrend overnight, but it looks like a down trend after open? It may be a source of further confusion. Try to use the overnight session high/low as references, but weigh the action a little less.

With a real 24-hour market such as FX, it is a completely different matter since that is an actual traded product and not a derivative of a cash index.

The obvious problem with using multiple time frames is that it is likely to make you very confused.

I didn`t consult my higher time frames after the close yesterday, but the spike above 30 yesterday surely looks like a fake breakout on higher time frames, yes? Still, it was a very good trade on the 5-minute chart. So, stick to a chart, learn it`s patterns and trade it.

This assumes day trading. If you are looking to swing trade, I would of course answer differently.

I hope that gave you some ideas. Try it out for yourself and make your own conclusions.

Regards,

LF
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LF,

Intra Swing Trading is precisely what the style I am pursuing for the same reason: Scalping is not for me and I accept this, therefore I seek to get in as soon as the early high or low is in and try to hang on for the daily bar to grow to typical size. This has been **VERY** difficult to pull off but will pay off someday. Yes I am trading NQ only.

Currently I have:

3 min for globex - I stop using this at 9:30 BUT transfer any very clear levels to the next chart for the day session.

1000 Volume for day session.

15 Min for a larger picture.... THIS is the one I am torn to get rid of or not. I have this in another workspace that includes a daily and weekly anyway. However, there have been times confirmation bars here are quite useful.. other times it has simply festered oversold and overbought thoughts in my head that were premature. As I have gotten a bit better reading the patterns of the 1000v I and finding I CAN get in before the 15 Min bar signal. This is why I am beginning to realize it's downsides only....

Thanks for your comments, especially confirming my thoughts that there are better ways (FOR ME) than scalping.

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