No doubt in my mind that recession is here, my question is how long it will last. Last we had recession was in 2000-2001 during dot com bomb exploded. but I felt it was pretty brief. When FED acknowledged recession, the recession was already half way through. It lasted maybe a year. I think this recession actually started the end of last year, maybe in 4th quarter of this year, things will start to turn around? Your thoughts?