How long until the leftist claim 'disproportionate force'?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Oct 9, 2023.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I'm just wondering what the target is this year. It is quite a common thing for narcissists to demand x ratio revenge.

    Things escalated since Golda.
     
    #61     Oct 14, 2023
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    #62     Oct 14, 2023
  3. https://www.infopal.it/la-posizione...-il-dovere-di-sostenere-la-causa-palestinese/
    google translate:


    On the occasion of these 75 years of occupation we want the world to know that what is being perpetrated against the Palestinian people – oppression, submission, the terrible cruelties – is not accomplished in the name of our religion, not in the name of the star of David, not in the name of the Jewish people in the world, who is faithful to the Jewish religion.

    And it is precisely because we are Jews and faithful to our religion that we strongly oppose the existence of the Zionist state of Israel. I call it a Zionist state because it is Zionist, and not Jewish. Judaism in the Torah forbids Jews from having their own sovereignty, a Jewish entity from the destruction of temples and any Jew loyal to the Torah does not aspire to the creation of a Jewish state. It is also forbidden to kill or steal.The whole concept of robbing this land of the Palestinian people is completely antithetical and contradictory to our religion, Judaism.

    The Jews, from day one, opposed the Zionist entity. We, as Jews, continue on this step because we are consistent with the Torah, we stand, cry and suffer alongside the Palestinian people. We want the world to know that we are close and in solidarity with the Palestinian people, in their suffering and we hope and pray to God constantly to end the occupation once and for all. we cry and suffer alongside the Palestinian people.


    We want the world to know that we are close and in solidarity with the Palestinian people, in their suffering and we hope and pray to God constantly to end the occupation once and for all. we cry and suffer alongside the Palestinian people. We want the world to know that we are close and in solidarity with the Palestinian people, in their suffering and we hope and pray to God constantly to end the occupation once and for all. We want the world to know that the Zionist movement is not a Jewish movement. It was a political and material movement created by heretics who simply try to incorporate our religion in an attempt to intimidate and silence people who oppose it, calling them anti-Semitic.

    But all of this is patently false. Anti-Semitism is to support the state of Israel. The persistence of this occupation represents an exacerbation of anti-Semitism, which causes the bloodshed of Palestinians and Jews in the same way. (Zionism) is the cause of the oppression not only of Muslims and Christians in Palestine, but also of the Jews. Hundreds of thousands of Jews in Palestine have lived there since before the foundation of the state of Israel, and continue to live there and protest daily suffering brutal attacks and being arrested.

    This is the sad story of this terrible Nakba (...) is a tragedy, a calamity and we hope that God, with his compassion, see all the suffering and even today in the last few days we have witnessed the death and suffering of Palestinians and the attacks on Gaza.This is Zionism, not Judaism. God with his compassion should quickly dismantle the Zionist state of Israel so that we could return to live together in harmony, Jews and Arabs, as it has been for hundreds and hundreds of years! And the Jews will be able to show their gratitude to the Arab Muslim countries for welcoming the Jewish people by giving them a home. Inshallah, soon, in our day, Amen!
     
    #63     Oct 14, 2023
  4. Mercor

    Mercor

    Another vacuous reply ....
     
    #64     Oct 14, 2023
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  5. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Sorry, cultural narcissists, lead by a grandiose narcissist. Is that easier for you to understand? I know you dont have any ability to read between lines.

    This morning I did a pre-interview with a non-Zionist Rabbi.

    He took me through the conflict between religous and secular Zionism. Nice fellow I guess. He is completely convinced that this is all a major own-goal and can't be resolved, ever, because it is a punishment for returning before their messia etc.
     
    #65     Oct 14, 2023
  6. wildchild

    wildchild

    The Bill to move the embassy was done in 1995. Trump had nothing to do with it.

    It passed overwhelmingly.
     
    #66     Oct 14, 2023
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  7. wildchild

    wildchild

    All I ask for is evidence. I am still missing how it is Trump's fault that the House and Senate, by a huge majority to move the embassy back in 1995.

    Lets recap. You blamed the recent barbaric action, partially on Trump, because he left Obama's awful Iran deal, You then claimed you were not blaming Trump, while partially blaming him. You lost that argument, then you moved to blaming Trump for moving the embassy. As stated already, the embassy move was voted and approved by Congress, in bi-partisan fashion. Once again, how is it Trump's fault that he implemented an act of Congress.

    The animals who raped in women in Israel are fully to blame for their actions. The animals who murdered babies in front of their parents are fully to blame for their actions.

    THERE IS NO MORAL EQUIVALENCY. DONALD TRUMP IS NOT TO BLAME FOR THE ACTIONS OF SAVAGES.

    UNDERSTAND?
     
    #67     Oct 14, 2023
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  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    You insist on remaining an Idiot. You know nothing. Why do you think, despite the 1995 appropriation, the Embassy wasn't moved until Netanfuckup, or was it Kushner, got Trump to do it? All the other Presidents had enough sense to recognize why it was a very, very bad idea to move the Embassy to Jerusalem. All the blame for this asinine move is on Trump. He had the same authority to prevent the move as the Presidents before him, he even exercised it once before Netanyahu got hold of him. (Clinton Bush Obama, all had enough sense to know how divisive such a move would be. They all had enough diplomatic sense to prevent the move! Even Bush!) Trump is a worse idiot than Bush. (I didn't think that was possible when Bush was President, but Trump has taught me a lot.)

    And the Tenny Amendment Sept 25th 2023, just makes the situation worse.

    Soon Netanyahu and Trump may both be in jail, hopefully in the same cell. They can share a space blanket together..
     
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    #68     Oct 14, 2023
  9. wildchild

    wildchild

    So Congress passes laws, Presidents ignore them. Thanks for the civics lesson. Dope.

    Second, the United States is a sovereign country. Israel is a sovereign country. Each has the right to choose where they have and host embassies.

    Third, to suggest that Hamas should response the way they did to someone moving an embassy is ridiculous.

    Fourth, if the Muslims were so upset the embassy moving and were so pissed off at Trump, Why was Trump able to negotiate the Abraham Accounts, well after the decision to move them embassy.

    Once again, your argument started with claiming that Trump was to blame for the Hamas attack because he pulled out of JCPOA, you lost on that one, then pivoted to embassy,

    HAMAS DECAPITATED BABIES IN FRONT OF THEIR PARENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE EVIL SAVAGES. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION.
     
    #69     Oct 15, 2023
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  10. piezoe

    piezoe

    The Presidents can't legally ignore the law. The "law" (104-45 104th Congress) left it up to each President to make the decision by giving them waiver authority. The Presidents preceding Trump wisely used that authority. You have to realize this entire business of moving the embassy was 100% political. There was no practical reason to move it. In fact from a practical standpoint it would be better to leave the Embassy in Tel aviv.

    I suppose it has never occurred to you to ask how it is I know all this stuff.
     
    #70     Oct 15, 2023
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