How long $3000 will last option trading

Discussion in 'Journals' started by skanan, Nov 18, 2005.

  1. skanan

    skanan

    SOLD -1 VERTICAL SPX 100 MAY 06 1230/1220 PUT @.35 CBOE, SPX MARK 1308.85
     
    #161     Apr 6, 2006
  2. trkarl

    trkarl

    With commodities you can EASILY lose more money than you have in your account. Say you have a position and a couple of days it makes limit moves in the opposite direction. You can't get out. All you can do is set there and cry.

    T
     
    #162     Apr 6, 2006
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    That's why with a small amount , you sell deep out of the moneys.
    Option selling is inherently less risky than trading the underlying.
     
    #163     Apr 6, 2006
  4. Well each commodity has a margin requirement. I can't remember off the top of my head but say you bought 1 contract of NKD (nikkei 250 futures contract) and the position moved against you.

    If you have $4000 and the requirement is $3000, if the NKD drop more than 200 points ( $1000 because of a multiplier of 5), your position will automatically be liquidated since it'll fall below $3000.00

    The problem with this is that NKD do not trade for 24 hours so it could open down 1000 points (equivalent to $5000 drop) and then you'll owe more than what's in your account.

    Now if you trade with more liquid and virtually 24-hour futures such as NQ, ES, YM, or ER2, the chances of a gap against you is smaller (not necessarily zero) so your account may get liquidated closer to the margin requirement.

    hope that makes sense.


     
    #164     Apr 6, 2006
  5. skanan

    skanan

    Thanks! Supposed after liquidating my account, the brokerage firm figure that I still owed extra $2000. Do they require me to give them more money ?

     
    #165     Apr 6, 2006
  6. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Technically yes, but it would be on them to collect it from you.
     
    #166     Apr 7, 2006
  7. skanan

    skanan

    SOLD -1 VERTICAL MRK 100 APR 06 35/37.5 CALL @.35 ISE, MRK MARK 34.46

    SOLD -4 VERTICAL SPX 100 MAY 06 1225/1215 PUT @.45 CBOE, SPX MARK 1298.36

    BOT +1 VIX 100 MAY 06 20 CALL @.25 CBOE, VIX MARK 12.20

    I followed Coach Phil SPX/VIX trade.

    SOLD -2 VERTICAL SPX 100 MAY 06 1225/1215 PUT @.50 using interactive brokers.
     
    #167     Apr 7, 2006
  8. skanan

    skanan

    SOLD -1 DIAGONAL SPY 100 MAY 06/APR 06 126/125 PUT @.50 ISE, SPY MARK 129.92

    Rolled my calendar APR/JUN 125 to diag
    short MAY 126 PUT/LONG JUN 125 PUT
     
    #168     Apr 7, 2006
  9. skanan

    skanan

    Bought MAY 129 XSP put in the morning for $1.85. This is probably my hedge.

    Sold 1x 1215/1225 May put for $0.60.

    Sold SPY 100 MAY 06/APR 06 126/126 PUT @.65
    . Rolled my calendar APR/JUN 126 to MAY/JUN 126 put.

    Total on SPX
    -1 1220/1230 MAY put
    -7 1225/1235 MAY put
    -1 1260/1265 APR put
    -1 1230/1235 APR call
    -1 1250/1260 APR put
    -1 1335/1345 APR call
     
    #169     Apr 12, 2006
  10. skanan

    skanan

    Bought April AMD 32.5/30 put .35. Profit $30. I don't want to risk this over the earning.

     
    #170     Apr 12, 2006