How important is the win percentage?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Trade Prophet, May 8, 2020.

  1. I see
     
    #51     May 8, 2020
  2. Metamega

    Metamega

    I remember a podcast with Larry Williams where his trend trading had 30% win rate.

    He seemed to do alright for himself. Most people would stick to the plan better if they had a high win.
     
    #52     May 8, 2020
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  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thanks.
     
    #53     May 8, 2020
  4. comagnum

    comagnum

    Ken Grant is a risk consultant to many of the super star traders & firms. He reviewed raw brokerage records of the best traders and this is what he found:

    "Across all market conditions, trading styles, time frames & traders, one rule holds true: 5-10% of all trades account for 90% of profits."

    "I know of many portfolios that are so effective in their actual trading/execution and risk-control practices that they make large sums of money in a consistent, risk-adjusted manner with win/loss percentages in the low forties or below. The trick, of course, is to make sure that your winners pay off at higher multiples than those of your losers."

    High win rates appeal to the human desire for comfort & loss aversion, doing what is comfortable will never never make you a profitable trader.
     
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    #54     May 8, 2020
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  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    A moderator here at ET told me the OP referred to the person that started the thread as in "thread starter".

    I replied...why isn't it then TS ?

    He replied...technically its the "original person" a phrase from the old messaging boards online prior to Elitetrader.

    I replied...heck how old is Baron (ET owner) ? He must be in a nursing home. :D

    wrbtrader
     
    #55     May 8, 2020
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  6. Baron

    Baron Administrator

    Without referring to a person, some people consider OP to mean "Original Post" or the first post that got the discussion topic going.

    And just for the record, I'm 48. No nursing homes for me yet. :thumbsup::D
     
    #56     May 8, 2020
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  7. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    Brilliantly written and spot-on true. A lot like the Pareto principle type thinking, eg 20% of trades account for 80% of profits.

    Lol re old, OP I'm 56 and remember dialup 56k modems, wildcat BBS boards and cool ASCII welcome screens.
     
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  8. heispark

    heispark

    When you go to Forex Factory, it's very easy to find people who blow their accounts again and again with +95% win rate....... :cool:
     
    #58     May 8, 2020
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  9. With proper risk management, you can be a profitable trader with a 50% per trade win ratio or less. Sometimes I hope my initial trade goes the wrong way just so I can ride the correct breakout or breakdown with ~3x the previous size.
     
    #59     May 8, 2020
  10. heispark

    heispark

    I basically agree with you but some people such as Boris Schlossberg (CNBC FX commentator and Kathy Lien's business partner) are strongly against 'risk:reward ratio' concept. Once he even said it's the biggest BS he's ever heard. :wtf: Interesting......
    https://www.bkforex.com/boris-schlossberg/the-counter-intuitive-nature-of-riskreward-ratios/
     
    #60     May 8, 2020