How I'm Trading the Volatility: Live trades (Jan)

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by KCalhoun, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Vaccine news will keep coming, normal seasonal strengths suggest support of markets through mid-January, possibly late January. You are fighting against current. Momentum trades are where the money is at these days, easier to make money then shorting anything. I'd give up on every triple short until then except maybe 1-2 hour holds on obvious moves ( occasionally I hedge my risk short term with etfs ).
     
    #241     Dec 12, 2020
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    Strong uptrending QQQ bull market/cant argue with that,NineE.
    Stock Traders Almanac also has an average\tradable correction by DEC mid month.
    I remember DEC 2019 also had a sharp correction by DEC mid month/LOL. That DEC 2019 correction turned out to be brief/ but we did not know that @ the time.
    UPRO + SPY did fine,actually much better % by DEC 2019.
    Hard to go wrong much, with inverse ETFs, if one trades them like an insurance premium.
     
    #242     Dec 13, 2020
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  3. themickey

    themickey

    Insurance has a cost which dilutes profits.
    Insurance is good should a total disaster happen, like a total wipeout, but if the insurance is there to pay for small losses like losing a cheap camera on a holiday trip, mheh, not such a good idea.
    Right now can't envisage a total disaster happening, the signs aren't there.
    Directional bets are probably better than insurance bets atm.
     
    #243     Dec 13, 2020
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    I see your points/profitable points.
    But thats the good thing about inverse ETFs/its not all or nothing. I never suggested countertrends were as profitable as trends.
    I never did insure any cheap camera, or buy a camera to resell it.
    Another advantage/if i'm buying SPXS, for example / i may have sold UPRO/SPXL/sometimes SPY.
    [I probably would insure a cheap camera if it helped my long UPRO/SPXL trades like SPXS does/LOL].
     
    #244     Dec 13, 2020
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  5. themickey

    themickey

    I was thinking along the lines....KISS. Either go long and exit or go long and live with the drawdown.
    Shorting or buying the dips in an inverse ETF is not only adding complications but is actually inefficient.
    It's inefficient because the moves are more fast, short, erratic, unpredictable.
    By the time you've added time, slippage, fees, plus the added danger of thinking a different strategy into your methods, eeeehhhh.....???.......it's not clever......just my 2c :)
     
    #245     Dec 13, 2020
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    That is unless a decent rout gets underway, which it's not atm.
     
    #246     Dec 13, 2020
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  7. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    Great points... rem last week was red, look at recent multiday UVXY uptrend. Vaccine and stim news may rally markets.

    Inverses have hedge value but spikes are quick, like when I bought TVIX 51 sold 940, slow hold but fast exit.

    Following tech SOXS SQQQ carefully next week
     
    #247     Dec 13, 2020
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    Good points/profitable points
    Long tech etfs or x3 tech etfs or x2 etfs are not '' predictable '' /but tend to be much more profitable\except sell in may/not today........................................................................
    MAY not be clever/but profitable in MAY/MAYbe.
    I still remember my 14% loss this year in spxs\by the time i had time to exit it still aboui a 10% loss.
    Shorting an inverse could make more money than me sometimes buying inverse;
    but i have enough gap risk already.
    SO its not just i trade SPXL/upro/spy better by a spxs buy;
    its tougher thinking as you say/but thats better than a WSJ crossword puzzle.
    Add a mental/moneytary value======== hard to calculate with spxs/spy[edit did exit TECS/going up today when i got out]
     
    #248     Dec 14, 2020
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  9. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    UVXY nice recovery bounce, big tip is sell gaps up, buy gaps down in inverses
     
    #249     Dec 14, 2020
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  10. themickey

    themickey

    The gap in the inverse chart?
    Buy down gaps in the inverse chart like UVXY?
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    #250     Dec 14, 2020
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