How I Made $180M in 6 Months Trading Natural Gas

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Baron, Jun 7, 2023.

  1. comagnum

    comagnum

    Must be nice to lose $60M and have someone bail you out, at that rate your bound to get rich - your also bound to give it all back & than some.

    It gets a lot more real when your risking your own hard earned $.
     
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    #31     Jun 7, 2023
  2. Exactly.
     
    #32     Jun 7, 2023
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  3. I did watch the video entirely before posting, so that "nobody" filled your mouth completely, my man.
     
    #33     Jun 8, 2023
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  4. NoahA

    NoahA

    So after watching the video, I would say its legit. But, the guy isn't really trading futures, as another poster pointed out earlier. He is more so arranging for physical delivery and using almost arbitrage-like opportunities in order to make money.

    Also, the quoted figures of dollars made and lost are I believe for the firm. I didn't get the impression that this was just his cut. How much of the 180M he gets to keep I have no idea.

    I think the key to what makes him good is that he doesn't have a connection to the emotional reaction of a win or loss. The guy isn't stone cold, as can be seen in the opening few minutes where he gets chocked up about talking about his life back in El Salvador. But when it comes to trading, he says he has no reaction if he losses big or wins big.

    The other nugget is that when he feels he is right, he doesn't take small profits and just lets the trade ride. He said if he thinks he can make a million, he won't just settle on a 10k profit. I read about this as well in Trader Tom's book, and lots of successful guys repeat the adage which goes something like "90% of the profits are made from 10% of the trades". So its important to have conviction and stick with it. Oh, and he credits an ability to take the opposite side of the trade as well. So stick with it if you know you're right, but if you can see you're take, take the other side.

    But outside of this, I'm not sure how much he can teach any of us about sitting in front of a computer and trading an NG or CL contract.
     
    #34     Jun 8, 2023
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  5. M.W.

    M.W.

    So, is it real? You would surely not post random YouTuber videos of kids claiming they made 140mln?

     
    #35     Jun 8, 2023
  6. He did say something that is worth the whole video, "the CL market is a driver for the NG market". It is up to us to study that correlation, but to know that there is a driver in that market is something worth knowing.
     
    #36     Jun 8, 2023
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  7. TrAndy2022

    TrAndy2022

    The only way how this is possible while being a trader on such a firm, is scaling in and compounding on your profits. So he made big bets when he was in the gains thus increasing his position to the max. leverage he can get. That way it is certainly and always possible because you are only risking your gains so far. That is the only way how a firm could tolerate big position sizes. Otherwise he could not make 9-figures within a year.
     
    #37     Jun 8, 2023
  8. wmwmw

    wmwmw


    I checked the wrong symbol.But on a 150K daily volume I guess is is still not easy to move 180M.
    Actually I am very interested to know the highest capital one can swing trade or daytrading on 150K daily volume.
    NG is the most suitable instrument to swing trade.Most profitable instrument.
     
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    #38     Jun 8, 2023
  9. maxinger

    maxinger

    1. 150K volume is about
    150K + $50K = $7.5 billion worth of NG per day

    2. Futures trading is leveraged.
    Anyway, the person in the video is trading physical NG, not futures.
    If he were to trade NG futures, he should be earning
    billions, not millions.
     
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    #39     Jun 8, 2023
  10. wmwmw

    wmwmw

    Why you take $50K for a contract? Maintenance is only $4500.
     
    #40     Jun 8, 2023