How does Warren Buffet scale in and out?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by bontrjd, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. As mentioned, It's easier for Buffett to buy cheap than it is for you.

    Why? Because he KNOWS whats cheap and you just think you know.

    So he just bids a penny more than the next guy for as long as it takes to buy as much as he wants.

    Easy.


    PS Indicators dont tell you a damn thing about this.
     
    #11     Sep 15, 2007

  2. I buy businesses at 0.50 cents on $ 1, its called value investing, nothing new, nothing secret about it. In fact here is book I highly recommend you read :

    RULE#1 by PHIL TOWN.

    It tells you exactly how WARREN BUFFET buys businesses and how to do your online research in 15 minutes. This is so simple, its amazing and yet so powerful.

    Indicators do tell you a lot, and they are part and parcel for a successful trading plan.
     
    #12     Sep 15, 2007
  3. stock 777, you have zero clue....ever heard of working an order? he will buy in the hole, when there is size for sale...he is patient...yikes, bid a penny more? for what? he buys size, you own stupidity.
     
    #13     Sep 15, 2007
  4. BNI trades around 4.4 million shares a day, thats like 330 million over 3 months. At an average price of $80 thats a volume of $26bn. Market cap is $29bn. The only thing that's needed here is secrecy and thus a trading desk you can trust 100%.

    I once read Buffet asked the SEC for an exception for his 13F filings; they granted him delayed filings so he can accumulate all he wants of the float and only then has to make it public so the headlines won't adversely impact his buying prices too much.
     
    #14     Sep 15, 2007
  5. zdreg

    zdreg

     
    #15     Sep 15, 2007
  6. danoXP

    danoXP

    Believe it or not ... Warren Buffett picks up the phone in his unremarkable office, calls his broker, and says "Buy 10M McDonalds shares thank you", then hangs up the phone.

    Later on in the day he gets a call back confirming that he bought 10M McDonalds shares and what the average price was (he answers his phone himself and calls in his orders himself).

    A good broker, gets you good execution at a fair price. If not, there will be a long line of brokers wanting to pick up Warren's account. I have no idea how the brokers at Goldman Sachs deal with Warren's order, but I don't think you want to cheat the man ;)

    This is what you had to do in the 1980s before the first Etrade account over the compuserve command line dial up service in 1991.

    Warren is not a man that is concerned with marginal improvement in trading execution ... he looks at the a long term big picture and rounds most figures to their 2 or 3 most significant digits (he hates false precision).
     
    #16     Sep 15, 2007
  7. gaidaros

    gaidaros

    it is called algorithmic trading and it is big business atm
    google algorithmic trading and see various algorithms
    for slicing and dicing orders, giving false signals etc
    so that real intentions remain hidden
    official estimates are 40% of market vol is algorithmic trading
    no prediction trading systems etc, but intention-hiding systems
    can they be reversed, well the one who can has an edge :)
     
    #17     Sep 15, 2007
  8. Exactly and this is why individual traders like us have an advantage because we can move in and out during these big block trades. Buffett could care less if he has to pay $100,000 more, but I love taking a slice of that. How do you figure out when a large order is being placed---ahh that takes years of tape reading practice.
     
    #18     Sep 15, 2007

  9. Is WARREN BUFFET computer challenged? He does not have Internet connections and emails? What you are telling me he probably looks at the " newspapers" for stock prices perhaps?
     
    #19     Sep 15, 2007
  10. Don't quote me but I'm quite convinced (95% sure) that I read from a reputable source that Buffet still does look at his stocks' prices in the newspaper.
     
    #20     Sep 15, 2007