How does one effectively "trail stops"?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by BartSimpson, Apr 11, 2023.

  1. %%
    THEY had another semi-public stop, also , but that's beyond this thread.
    I SELDOM exit long$ ''on a new HI''/ ;
    sometimes maybe after a long series of new HIGHS/LOL:D:D
    But I like to study trends much + a lot...............................and study super trends, a lot .
    Even though profit targets can easy be inferior;
    sometimes i like them, SEPT can be different.
    AND like Larry ''Mint'' Hite noted with his umbrella ;
    when you get some female wisdom, on taking your umbrella LOL . DO THAT.
    The risk of a soaking rainstorm\hailstorm In UK or anywhere is very real:caution::caution:
     
    #41     Jul 24, 2023
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  2. tomorton

    tomorton

    Sounds like your tactics match your strategy. Trading on a short time-frame makes extended trend-following and pyramiding difficult to do successfully - few opportunities, many failures.

    Many losing traders seem to use tactics from one style in a strategy within another.
     
    #42     Jul 25, 2023
  3. tuxedo69

    tuxedo69

    Hi,
    Maybe i should clarify a little, i am a counter trend trader ,trading Fib retracements so my strategy has an entry point a target and stop, as you are aware i am technically trading against the trend (and possibly)the major trend.

    So it is not in my interest to try to follow the trend because once my trade is over i take my TP and wait for the next set up.


    But the strategy i use really is not concerned with the bigger picture (bigger time frame)

    I see deaddog has positions on for days months



    Unsure about your comment (Many losing traders seem to use tactics from one style in a strategy within another.)
     
    #43     Jul 25, 2023
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  4. %%
    Good /
    like Al Einstein noted\ God does not play dice/Put another way\ WE toss the coin; but the Lord controls its decision .
    Good points+ 100% true, much better to toss a coin than flip it/markets are like that also .
    Proverbs 16 TLB; literally cast dice......LOL:D:D
     
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    #44     Jul 25, 2023
  5. tomorton

    tomorton

    What I mean by mixing tactics from different styles is that many new traders seem to use TP's and early exits to throttle their trend-following trades, but they hold on too long to losing counter-trend trades (which are the majority).
     
    #45     Jul 26, 2023
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  6. tuxedo69

    tuxedo69

    You are right ,if your counter trend trade does well not ,, retrace as you expect, many traders will hope (you know the saying).

    But that is where pattern recognition comes in to my strategy.

    As well as

    Pattern recognition
    Time when and when not to trade.(very important)
    News Speeches
    and all the other stuff

    Fed Powell talking now
     
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    #46     Jul 26, 2023
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    LOL= I was not there but i made a little mental note, when[if ] the market gets crazy enough to
    delay quotes on his market exits to wipe out all his profits + bankrupt the boy plunger;
    cut back size fast LOL:D:D.Fed day almost over=so no worries on that today.
    NOT my favorite trailing indicator , because it will do sudden reverses @strange times;
    but if something works once a year like a 200dma, OK by me. PSAR
    Trend follower John Henry notes ,what he calls ''luck'' I call a small sample.
    Speaking of small samples, small countertrends that end small ;
    good confirmation the main trend did not end/LOL.
    BUT some times the counter-trend does not end very fast\
    so can trail that inverse trend a bit + not mess with main trend until proof is shown.
    Rings several bellsLOL:D:D
     
    #47     Jul 26, 2023
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  8. tuxedo69

    tuxedo69

    Hi MTT,

    Can you explain your post a little.
     
    #48     Aug 16, 2023
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  9. polybyte

    polybyte

    I mostly use ATR for trailing as it is already adjusted to volatility of a particular asset.
     
    #49     Nov 15, 2023
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  10. %%
    THAT seldom happens, where the markets get so crazy on bid \ask, the boy plunger went bankrupt. SORRY he did not keep some cash in his trade-invest account, every little bit of cash helpsLOL:D:D
    MAIN trail stops points, was PSAR[paraboilic stop + reVerse helps.
    PSAR is not exceptional ,on trailing profit + loss , but worked in monthly candles, hindsight on 1999 + 2000 bear ,so i glace @ it sometimes.
    IN hindsight PSAR gave a good buy signal on FEB + MAR,2023, buy SPY benchmark. NOT a stock tip, but good hindsight + good help, on an uptrend.........
     
    #50     Nov 15, 2023