I actually took the time to read this entire thread. It is quite good. Tampa, regardless of is delivery makes a good point about how to define a champion. A winning athlete is not a champion. Champions overcome adversity to succeed and help others. Chasinfla is looking for the common traits of a champion and how that applies to successful trading. Up until the end, even the disagreements were on point. Nowadays on ET after a few posts, the flaming begins, the thread is hijacked and the original concept or point is lost.