How do you trade Brent oil futures longterm?

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Sequoia1321, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. easymon1

    easymon1

    long positions only, or do you short too?
    do you look at charts? chart timeframe?
     
    #21     Jun 27, 2020
  2. On the brent contract I'm not shorting. Time frame I"m looking at is daily chart.
     
    #22     Jun 27, 2020
  3. easymon1

    easymon1

    #23     Jun 27, 2020
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  4. I'm in it for very long term, so if prices go down I'm staying in. Should have the capital to cover some moves to the downside, but if it goes down very much again I may have to trim my position. Hoping for a decent move in the next year or so. War is also a significant possibility. Seems like Trump might do anything to get reelected, according to the new revelations from Bolton. Now that he's so behind in the polls I wouldn't be surprised if he, in his subconscious mind and inner tendencies, will be more likely to start something with Iran, he might not even realize he's doing it but I think this is a significant possibility. Am also very surprised by the strength of the stock market, it is near all time highs, hard to believe. So I think if some good news comes out about a vaccine the market would get extremely bullish. I see a high likelihood for a 50% to 100% move to the upside in oil in the next year or two.
     
    #24     Jun 27, 2020
  5. easymon1

    easymon1

    something like this might be handy if you have the time for it.
    This study calculates the difference between two charts. eg, futures month 'A' vs month B.
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    Home >> (Table of Contents) Studies and Indicators >> Technical Studies Reference >> Difference - Bar
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    Difference (Bar or Single Line)
    This study calculates the difference between two charts. Refer to the Multiple Chart Studies instructions for the steps to use this type of study. These two charts must be open at all times and be within the same Chartbook for this study to work properly.

    The displayed graph can be either a Bar or Single Line. If you use the Bar version, the actual graph type is set through the Graph Draw Type setting on the Subgraphs tab of the Study Settings window for the study.

    For every bar/column in this study, it references the corresponding bar/column in the chart being referenced (through the Chart 2 Number Input). This is the nearest matching Date-Time value in the chart being referenced compared to the Date-Time of the corresponding bar in the chart this study is on. So if there is no exact Date-Time match, then the nearest bar will be used instead.

    The Single Line version of this study calculates the difference between the selected Input Data of the chart this study is applied to and the same Input Data element in the chart specified with the Chart 2 Number Input. For example, if the Input Data Input is set to Last, then it is the difference between the Last value of a bar in the chart that this study is applied to and the Last value of the corresponding bar in the specified chart.

    The Bar version of the Difference study calculates the difference between the Open, High, Low, and Close values independently, for each bar in the chart the study is applied to and the corresponding bar in the chart being referenced which is specified by the Chart 2 Number Input. The difference between the Open to Open is calculated, High to High is calculated, Low to Low is calculated, and the Close to Close is calculated, all independently.

    The High and Low can change within a bar. The High will not always get higher and the Low will not always get lower. They are based upon the High and Low values between the two charts used in the calculation, respectively.

    If the Open or the Close differences exceed the High or Low differences, then the High and/or Low are adjusted so that the Open or Close differences do not exceed them. For the greatest accuracy you may be interested in the High Accuracy Spread study configuration.

    When either chart used in the calculation is updated, then the last column of the study and any new columns of the study in the chart are updated.

    Inputs
    • Chart 2 Number and Graph: Defines the Chart Number and Graph to be used as the second set of data to be subtracted from the main graph on which this study has been applied.

      In addition to the Main Price Graph, graphs that have been added to a chart using the Add Additional Symbol study are made available in the graph selection box.

      In this case, first select the chart from the first list. The chart will be the very same chart that the Difference (Bar) study has been added to. Next select the Add Additional Symbol study from the second list. The Add Additional Symbol study will have a name which contains the symbol it is displaying.
    • Chart 1 Multiplier: Defines the multiplier value to be applied to the primary graph that is used for the difference calculation. By default this value is set to 1.
    • Chart 2 Multiplier: Defines the multiplier value to be applied to the secondary graph that is use for the difference calculation. By default this value is set to 1.
    • Chart 1 Addition: Defines an additive value to be applied to the primary graph prior to the subtraction. This allows the values to be move up or down by the amount entered into this input. By default this value is set to 0.
    • Zero Output When Non Exact Date-Time Match: When this is set to Yes then if there is no matching data at the same date and time in both primary and secondary graphs, then there is no data displayed in the Difference study at that Date an Time. Otherwise, if this is set to No then the Difference study will use the nearest match for the data in the necessary graph an use that in the calculation.
    • Use Latest Source Data for Last Bar: When the Zero Output When Non Exact Date-Time Match input is set to No and this input is set to Yes then the latest bar that is available in Chart 2 is used for the comparison with the last bar in Chart 1.
    • Zero Output When One Source Graph Has Zero Values: When this input is set to Yes and one of the source charts has a value of zero for its data point, then this study will not display any information for that bar. Note that this is different from missing data. In order to not display data when there is no data present for a particular time, use the Zero Output When Non Exact Date-Time Match input.
     
    #25     Jun 27, 2020
  6. Managed to roll over my Brent contracts yesterday to the next month. Made 2 cents "profit" or credit on the roll over with a limit sell order. I wonder how often that is possible to do? If I'm in a long term position maybe I should have this type of limit sell orders going back and forth between the front month and next month the whole time I'm in the position, constantly shifting my position back and forth between the two months. Currently have one in place to move from the Sept to the Oct contract.
     
    #26     Jun 27, 2020
  7. If brent prices come down I see it having strong support at 36. This might actually happen given the weakness I see in the S&P chart. S&P and brent have been following each other closely, and yesterday S&P closed below a significant area, though brent did not do this on its chart, but it might be a sign of things to come for brent because S&P chart looks pretty weak hear on the daily. But could be a quick move right back up on the same day if it does break down. Either way, brent chart looks stronger than S&P right now, on the last major move brent made a higher high but S&P did not, so I think looks good for brent long term, especially if market gets good news.
     
    #27     Jun 27, 2020
  8. easymon1

    easymon1

  9. Is that saying that crude oil prices tends to be higher in the summer and lower around winter? What's your position on the brent crude price? You think we might see a momentary down move? I've been thinking maybe if it closes below 39 to reverse or close out my long position and try to buy it back around 37 and 36. Might not be so easy though because the price could move quickly.
     
    #29     Jun 27, 2020
  10. easymon1

    easymon1

    mr Sequoia 1321,
    You'll get better feedback from pretty much anybody in this site on that question.
    i like daytrading fast charts, 1, 2, 3, 5, 10, minutes. CL and GC contracts are emotional enough even on a short timeframe that i handle them with kid gloves and if a trade can profit within a couple of hours, i'm good. years?

    man, i have no idea, but i like the cut of your jib and the patience you have.
    you'll get the job done, i'm sure. i'll watch and learn.
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    #30     Jun 27, 2020