How do You set your Stops? Got favorite ideas?

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by KCalhoun, Apr 18, 2021.

  1. Tradex

    Tradex

    Not really.

    If you are not scalping, day-trading or a long term investor then you are swing trading.

    Mr Calhoun's ability to follow so many stocks and other financial instruments at the same time (on a daily basis and in real time) is truly outstanding, I can never do that, my head will literally explode ! :D
     
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    #11     Apr 18, 2021
  2. Arnie

    Arnie

    #12     Apr 19, 2021
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  3. DevBru

    DevBru

    I agree, i used to use trailing stops or move the stop to BE manually, but when i took a look at my past trades it turned out that i left a lot of money on the table by setting my stop to BE or by using trailing stops.

    The few times the BE/trailing stops prevented a loss did not outweigh the potential profit i was missing out on due to being stopped out to early, so now i just use hard stops.
     
    #13     Apr 19, 2021
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  4. Disagree. Exercising/not exercising stops is a "style" thing. You make money (even survive) with your style and discipline.
     
    #14     Apr 19, 2021
  5. Arnie

    Arnie

    ON IGNORE!!




    j/k
     
    #15     Apr 19, 2021
  6. Tradex

    Tradex

    ??

    Trading with no stop means you are willing to lose 100% of your capital.

    But MAE implies that an optimal stop exists for any given trading system!
    (Please refrain from posting a copyrighted book in a public forum, unless you have the author's consent).
     
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    #16     Apr 19, 2021
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  7. taowave

    taowave

    And how does the WFA look on the "optimized/ curvefitted" stop??

     
    #17     Apr 19, 2021
  8. Tradex

    Tradex

    WFA?
     
    #18     Apr 19, 2021
  9. You can't know the optimal stop ex-ante. The best way to establish a stop is by having two catalysts: a budget stop and a thesis stop.
    • budget stop should be how much you are willing to risk on any trade x confidence
    • thesis stop is when your thesis changes
    If you are trading momentum or reversals ("swing trading") then you really have no thesis, and therefore, your risk budget should be tighter. It is the equivalent of betting on a high card in a game of poker preflop.
     
    #19     Apr 19, 2021
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  10. For sure... all I know is that getting stopped out is a realized loss and no one wants to get stopped out. I like to use hard stops strategically placed ie below support if long, if it lines up with my capital risk otherwise I end up trailing or move to BE.
     
    #20     Apr 19, 2021