How do you lose $5 billion in one week?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by OddTrader, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. heynow

    heynow

    LTCM lost 4.6 billion but over 4 months according to wikipedia.
    Nick Leeson lost 1.4 billion at Barings Bank.

    So a $5 billion blowup in 5 days has to be the biggest and fastest blowup of all time. Or am I wrong?
     
    #21     Sep 20, 2006
  2. m4a1

    m4a1

    hey all i was just watching bloomberg tv. the reporter was interviewing a professor from boston university and asked him what is the risk to the buyer of amaranth's energy portfolio. the professor replied:

    "well, i like to look at risk simply. nat gas can go to 0, so that's about $5. but just a few months ago nat gas was at $15. so the upside is better than the downside."
    :D


     
    #22     Sep 20, 2006
  3. Ok. Pick a strategy that you know will lose money going forward.
     
    #23     Sep 20, 2006
  4. By letting everyone know about the position so that they can bet against it.
     
    #24     Sep 20, 2006
  5. narballs

    narballs

    i wonder who will be taking the otherside of the trade when they unwind their natural gas positions. this may be the short term bottom for natural gas....
     
    #25     Sep 20, 2006
  6. I think you may have missed my point. Please read my post again.
     
    #26     Sep 20, 2006
  7. If this guy isn't cool, I don't know :D
     
    #27     Sep 20, 2006
  8. It's like this

    First all the hedge funds robbed the public blind by kiting the energy complex beyond all reason.

    Then the tables were turned.

    It's a nasty business, aint it.
     
    #28     Sep 20, 2006
  9. I'ts a lot easier to lose money due to the very thing that is supposed to keep you from losing money.

    I'll let you guess what it is.
     
    #29     Sep 20, 2006
  10. FWIW, Citadel will make a billion off this deal, minimum. They have the capital to ride out the shots the funds may take. WTF would attempt to run stops at $5.00 against Citadel?

    Time to buy NatGas. I think it's going to be an abnormally cold Winter.
     
    #30     Sep 20, 2006