How do you get rid of the "ego"

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by bat1, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. You are not losing because of your ego, you are losing because you don't have a trading plan. You have no exit strategy so when a trade starts going against you, you have no clue what to do. So you watch your losses piling up, hoping that somehow the market will turn in your favor. You exit when it gets too painful.

    This will continue till the time when you can't take the pain of losing anymore. At that time you will either quit or get down to making a trading plan.
     
    #21     Jun 10, 2012
  2. ocean5

    ocean5

    ''How do you get rid of the "ego"?

    The same way how you do get rid of the echo...Don`t scream out loud,be quiet and humble.
     
    #22     Jun 10, 2012
  3. meditation is great , making crazy bets at a casino helps out too makes u not care

    but end of the day its about how much pain you can take , manage the pain and you will gain :D
     
    #23     Jun 10, 2012
  4. back in the old days, when I was going through a really bad drawdown and having read all the trading books, I started reading all the pop psychology books thinking that somehow that would save me.

    the only one that really worked was the I Ching

    it's all based on mathmatics

    chances are, most days you toss it, it will tell you you just hold tight and do nothing

    everynow and then you will get an agressive toss

    and once in a great while you will get a "Go all in" day

    follow that, and you won't really have to worry about ego that much, because everything will be governed by math

    I don't ever use it anymore, at least not consciously

    but the years that I did kind of put things in mathmatical perspective

    ego aint nuthin but a relationship problem with your wife, your mother, or your father
     
    #24     Jun 10, 2012
  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    For me the two extremes are ego and fear. I wrote down some credos that I developed over the years. Whenever I feel emotional (good or bad) I read them.

    They range from sublime things: "be a man of value rather than wealth" to "if you've made more than you expect, cut because it will probably revert back" or "don't worry about missing the rally, there are many other other trades"

    It's like life's little instruction book for trading.


    I read it prob once every two weeks.
     
    #25     Jun 10, 2012
  6. if you've made more than you expect, cut because it will probably revert?

    That's kind of a defeatist attitude

    they won't ever write a book about you

    I am very conservative, and that's the way I see it

    plan shlam, when it moves more than it should and you can feel the energy and you know it very rarely lasts, I get flat

    but like I said, I sold my gold at 1340 and am now buying again at 1600

    so it doesn't always work, if that's what your ego wants, but if you have a little respect for math, it works enough of the time

    math trumps ego
     
    #26     Jun 10, 2012
  7. This comment means that you are not your ego. The ego can't exist without you but you can exist without the ego. So you have control of the situation no matter what you believe.

    Eckhart might say to stop feeding your ego when the real you fights against it. Simply drop it as not useful to you.
     
    #27     Jun 10, 2012
  8. did my post just get edited?

    well, that's the last time for me on this forum
     
    #28     Jun 10, 2012
  9. you can just ignore this post (if I am not already on your ignore list) because it was edited and the one sentence that I was setting up got deleted
     
    #29     Jun 10, 2012
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I'm not worried about someone writing a book about me. Im obly worried about sustainable long term alpha. I have noticed that my books pnl reverts. Your book might behave differently.

    I appreciate your comment about math, but math isn't everything. If it were the markets would be dominated by PhDs and we've seen where that leads.
     
    #30     Jun 10, 2012