How do you distinguish between the belief in God and the occult?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Brass, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. why would a creationist have a desire to search for the natural beginnings of the world if he believed that "god did it". and if he did search and found evidence that counteracted what he believed what would he do?
    you lack of critical thinking skills are astounding.


    "if conclusions contradict the word of God, the conclusions are wrong no matter how many scientific facts may appear to back them."biology textbook printed by conservative Christian publisher Bob Jones University Press
     
    #181     Mar 23, 2012
  2. is god nothing? what created god if nothing existed before?
     
    #182     Mar 23, 2012
  3. Epic

    Epic

    Again, you are lumping all believers in God into your definition of what a believer in God is.

    Are there creationist who fit that profile? yes.
    Are there scientists who manipulate data to support their biases? yes
     
    #183     Mar 23, 2012
  4. yes and other scientist will cry foul and set the record straight. who, in the religious community, will ever say the bible is wrong and get it rewritten based on new evidence?

    "Faith is a firm, stoic, and sacred conviction which is both adopted and maintained independent of physical evidence or logical proof. It is also an assumption of absolute accuracy and inerrent authority which must never be questioned. Science, on the other hand, is a matter of skeptical inquiry, in which nothing is sacred, and where even authority opinion is suspect. Its an objective method of measurably or verifiably improving our understanding of physical nature in practical application, or mathematics, or through experimentation and observation, and proposing falsifiable hypotheses explaining the facts in a theoretical framework to be subjected to a perpetual battery of critical analysis in peer review. Science parallels the rationalist perspective in that 'belief' should be tentative, conditional, and restricted only to that which is directly- supportable by logic or evidence; that, while many things may be considered possible, nothing should be positively believed unless positively indicated via the scientific method, and all assumptions must be questioned. In short, scientific methodology is the antithesis of faith, opposites in every respect."
     
    #184     Mar 23, 2012
  5. Epic

    Epic

    Exactly!

    Where did the matter come from that was present during the big bang? Or if string theory is correct, and two universes collided to create ours, where did those two come from?

    It's the same question.
     
    #185     Mar 23, 2012
  6. Epic

    Epic

    Are you joking? Why do you think there are so many religions? Religious people cry foul just as frequently as non-religious.

    Again, you are making it very obvious that you have a specific axe to grind with Judeo-Christianity. You obviously pride yourself on being a "free thinker" but i guess when it comes to the idea of God, you throw that out the window?
     
    #186     Mar 23, 2012
  7. you think? most christians still carry a textbook last revised in the 1600s. the king james bible.

    For three hundred years now, the Christian astronomer has known that his Diety didn't make the stars in those tremendous six days; but the Christian astronomer doesn't enlarge upon that detail. Neither does the priest.
    Samuel Clemens- Letters from the Earth
     
    #187     Mar 23, 2012
  8. stu

    stu

    That is certainly not the basis of science. Verification is quite the contrary of assumption.

    However, the making of simplistic assumptions on behalf of atheists, IS what theists do a lot of.

     
    #188     Mar 23, 2012
  9. so since science does not yet have all the answers you stop learning at "god did it"?

    "science is giving christians new and interesting gaps for them to cram their ever-diminishing god into – but the inevitable effect of that is to make the god they’re arguing for the nebulous existence of so far removed from the god of the bible as to make it a completely separate entity"
     
    #189     Mar 23, 2012
  10. Epic

    Epic

    You must not be very familiar with the various forms of Christianity. There are many Christians who are neither young-earthers, nor do they believe that the suggested 7-day creation was accurate or literal.
     
    #190     Mar 23, 2012