How do you Avoid Chop without missing the break (intraday)?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by zghorner, Nov 11, 2023.

  1. schizo

    schizo

    What's important to distinguish here is WHEN do you call something a range? Somtimes, it's difficult to say it is a chop when it's merely a pullback. Here's the difference.

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    #81     Nov 12, 2023
  2. schizo

    schizo

    So the best thing for you to do is discern whether this is a pullback or a sideway chop. Not easy at first, but with practice, you can do it. Yeah, easier said than done.

    You could then use trendlines to hone in on your trades. But then again, without first knowing that it's a range, this would not be so easy in real time.

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    #82     Nov 12, 2023
  3. padutrader

    padutrader

    :D:D:D:D
     
    #83     Nov 12, 2023
  4. padutrader

    padutrader

    first no ema

    use 20

    now why are you entering a second entry?

    so now if you have a trend line break of a bull [main trend] then that is a pull back which will be confirmed when you get a continuation signal like a buy signal.
    now if that buy signal does not lead to the resumption of the main trend but you get another trend line break and another buy signal then that is the second entry into the main trend.

    so you need to have a trend to enter ie. identify the trend you want to enter.

    Brooks assumes you have basic understanding of what you are trying to do in trading which is get into a trend


    scalpers too identify a trend and enter that trend only the trend they identify may be 1 bar or 10 but they get out early.

    and to identify the first or second or third entry you need to identify the pull backs.

    if after a first trend line break the market tries to resume the main trend and does not do so and then there is second trend line break and another trade signal comes - THIS is a second attempt to resume the trend then that is the second entry.

    if there is pb and then the main trend resumes. Then you get one more pb and there is trade signal this is the
    not the second entry as defined
     
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    #84     Nov 12, 2023
  5. padutrader

    padutrader

    #85     Nov 13, 2023
  6. tony.m

    tony.m

    If I was Padu, I would stop trading altogether and start my own course based on second entries.
     
    #86     Nov 13, 2023
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  7. padutrader

    padutrader

    :D
     
    #87     Nov 13, 2023
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  8. themickey

    themickey

    If I were Padu I would startup a church, a lot of similarities with religion, sometimes it works, most times it doesn't.
     
    #88     Nov 13, 2023
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  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    I'll stick with it over arbitrary "touches" if you don't mind.
     
    #89     Nov 13, 2023
  10. padutrader

    padutrader

    i think all experienced traders know that trading is not simply matter of taking set ups- if it were that, no one would lose-but an issue of evaluating the quality of set up and that of context and last finally adding a healthy dose of instinct or street smartness, which sometimes means to look a gift horse in the mouth, especially if it is gift wrapped with a 'I care for you' note.
     
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    #90     Nov 13, 2023
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