How do you Avoid Chop without missing the break (intraday)?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by zghorner, Nov 11, 2023.

  1. zghorner

    zghorner

    as of now I have it down to what I consider a max of 3 successful entries per day. the first entry often needs average # failures to enter with average and max drawdown amounts. The remaining 2 have one entry/exit allowance each.

    only trade most liquid hours 07:00-13:00 GMT-6

    last two weeks i was trading ~20x per day at least with a high level of mistakes.
     
    #181     Nov 19, 2023
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  2. zghorner

    zghorner

    Ill give it some more consideration thanks.
     
    #182     Nov 19, 2023
  3. Real Money

    Real Money

    Hey, this is just some volume tools I've been working on. You can see how important this is in practice. If you're not using volume and comparing your trades to other participants, you're missing a lot of information. Volume.jpg
     
    #183     Nov 19, 2023
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  4. Jzwu2017

    Jzwu2017

    I am also learning to overcome my overtrading problem. On the surface it’s overtrading but underneath it’s actually the lack of an edge to differentiate good trades from all other marginal and bad trades, I think.

    If true, it requires one to have more time and experience with the market. For intraday trading it’s simply more patience and waiting for the right time with a high probability.
     
    #184     Nov 19, 2023
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  5. Last

    Last

    Here's a trade I took on Monday that illustrates what I'm saying. I'm in central time zone, so entry time would be forward an hour in NY time. Notice how choppy NY lunch was, and then right at the top of the hour/end of lunch, sell stops got raided to fuel that breakout.

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    #185     Nov 22, 2023
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  6. Aloha Padu!

    glad you’ve returned to ET after some time off

    Do you typically have a profit target, or set time you stay in a trade?

    I’ve read you reference scalping and trend trading and am interested in knowing what YOU do more of. I know, each entry depends on the setup/context, but in general..?

    mahalo!
    Mark
     
    #186     Nov 30, 2023
  7. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    chop is where all the money hangs out ....
     
    #187     Nov 30, 2023
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  8. could a valid observation be that banks or larger sized algos take an initial position and offer it up to others. is this true?
     
    #188     Jun 4, 2024
  9. eleanorK80

    eleanorK80

    what I was thinking about was the same as yours, it is people's secret no one will reveal that.
     
    #189     Jun 10, 2024
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  10. schizo

    schizo

    Honey, that ain't no secret. It should be common sense. :)
     
    #190     Jun 10, 2024