How do people fail at this?

Discussion in 'Forex' started by ark93, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. volpri

    volpri

    And I think a trader should practice, practice until he finds an edge that works for him. And he makes that edge work first on a sim. If he can’t make it work on a sim it certainly WILL NOT work live, with real money on the line. Even if it does work on a sim that does not mean it will work as good live because you got the “fill issue”on the sim vs live trading but if a trader can make it work consistent with sim at least he will have a better chance when going live.

    All the emotional issues will kick in once a trader goes live. So that is another whole arena to be mastered but on a sim a trader can discover, get, and hone an edge while learning. No need to throw real money out there while in this discovery and honing process.

    When a trader finds an edge he should practice...practice...practice...and practice it over and over until it becomes second nature. Then look at going live and dealing with the emotional issues. Always start live very small, never big. Once a trader gains a goodly measure of confidence in his methodology, his ability to trade live, his capacity to execute his edge live, and prove to himself that he can be consistent in making profits then a trader can think of stepping up into bigger size. IMHO
     
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    #111     Mar 31, 2019
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  2. volpri

    volpri

    ROFLMAO ...I wonder if a body can channel profits....?
     
    #112     Mar 31, 2019
  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    FYP
     
    #113     Mar 31, 2019
  4. Hello volpri,

    Thanks for the write up, its well appreciate it.

    I agree with you, and that is why I am still in SIM practicing and practicing and studying. I have capital to trade live, but it reserve til I am ready. You are right about that emotional issue when trading live, those emotions must be replaced with confidence and beleif in what the trader is doing.

    I agree with you everything you said. Especially on the emotional side. Confidence is needed and that comes from my practice and repeated practice.
     
    #114     Apr 1, 2019
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  5. Andras

    Andras

    But sometimes the leverage can turn against you, so it doesn't really guarantee profit you know.
     
    #115     Apr 2, 2019
  6. Most people fail at this because they are missguided and miseducated by the heaps of online guides. Sure, some of it is very much spot on, but we're talking about a small minority.

    Of course you won't know this until you become correctly educated - it's a catch 22 situation. When you're on top of your game you can call out the BS quite easily based on your prior knowledge and experience.

    So yea, most fail because they go at it alone and don't have the correct support, or they just fail to hit the point where the penny finally drops and they have that 'ah ha' moment.

    Also, FX retail trading/speculation is a dirty industry - rifled with scam brokers, scam marketeers and scam promotions. Any FX trader who comes out of the woodwork is almost automatically tarnished for taking part in such an industry when there are far superior, cleaner and perhaps derivatives that require a higher level of education and technical understanding.
     
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    #116     Apr 3, 2019
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  7. geedy

    geedy

    Being balanced I can agree with, but being leveraged doesn't really guarantee profit all the time. In fact sometimes leverage can mean your down fall.
     
    #117     Apr 3, 2019
  8. BaconSandwich

    I agree with you 100%. What is your opinion on a trader becoming correctly educated?
     
    #118     Apr 3, 2019
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  9. It's a tough one, perhaps the most crucial question of them all?

    My own personal route was to self-learn by trial and error, learning what did and didn't work. I come from a data analyst background so I was comfortably able to record all variables from a quantified point of view, thus being able to drill down into what does work whilst finding out why...and also being able to drill down into what doesn't work whilst also finding out why. Long story short; you find a middle ground and explore potential edges.

    I do often wonder what attributes or background a potential trader needs to come from in order to make a fluent transition - there's certainly some industries that lend themselves to being advantageous.

    Again cutting a long story short, to become correctly educated IMHO you need to go it alone. If you don't hit the mark then you don't hit the mark. I'd ignore all online resources. You have a chart in front you, that's all that matters - nothing else. Keep it really simple. Voilà! (after a good few years)
     
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    #119     Apr 3, 2019
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  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    To none one in particular - they spend too much over "anal"yzing things they have no control over.
     
    #120     Apr 3, 2019