How do market makers make money?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Jayan16118, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. wildchild

    wildchild

    Didn't claim it did!
     
    #41     Apr 20, 2019
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    I have no idea, but I do not see any public companies that are MM present outsized losses during those times.
     
    #42     Apr 20, 2019
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  3. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    Most, but not all. Most of the traders I have met from firms like SIG are told not to over hedge. The more automated they are, they more they likely hedge, but how often is part of their code.
     
    #43     Apr 20, 2019
  4. volpri

    volpri

    @destriero so you ask why I am here? Maybe to keep yatchsman like you twittling their toes...ROFLMAO
     
    #44     Apr 20, 2019
  5. qubit000

    qubit000

    They employ 'Quants' who develop algorithms that engage in 'HFS' - high frequency trading that not only exploit the spread between bid/ask but any potential pattern where thy can take contrarian trade.
     
    #45     Apr 21, 2019
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  6. ETJ

    ETJ

    Since the demise of much of the human MM - what has become a big concern are "fat finger" mistakes similar to one that took down KCG.
     
    #46     Apr 21, 2019
  7. Nobert

    Nobert

    (?)


    Reminds me of online video game,
    ( even tho, he mentions, multiple times, that it's not a game )

    that i played as teenager, where different magic orbs, would serve as currency,

    thus, me and other, advanced players,
    would have , full stock/inventory of those ;

    all day long,

    we would buy for the less , from other players, and sell for more - to others.

    Providing liquidity.

    As the years went on, those currencies, expierenced inflation, while some stayed still, like a gold standart.

    When there was no sellers at the server,

    the price was,

    - up to the last merchant.

    How to trade poe Jewellers Orb form poe.jpg
     
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    #47     Apr 21, 2019
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  8. Nice dude, nice...
     
    #48     Aug 24, 2020
  9. tommo

    tommo

    I've worked on market making desks for years. Market makers get paid a fee by the exchange for meetining minimum quoting obligations. Often have to be x number of ticks away from best bid/offer 80% of the month.

    Some MM deals you don't get a monthly fee but free exchange fees so the prop side of the business has a bit of an edge being able to trade at lower costs.

    The downside is you often get filled on violent moves when you don't want to be filled. The name of the game is to get filled as little as possible and when you do get filled to hedge it off as best as you can hence its mostly all automated.
     
    #49     Aug 24, 2020
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  10. bone

    bone

    This is when MM’s get absolutely hosed. I’ve really hurt some MM’s badly when I traded OTC energy. As a Commercial producer I had inside information.

     
    #50     Aug 24, 2020
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