How different is trading index etf (SPY) against SP ES-Mini ?

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by ctarmor-et, May 21, 2008.

  1. lindq

    lindq


    Look into ER. IMO, much easier to trade than ES, with more opportunities.

    Good luck.
     
    #11     May 24, 2008
  2. Big difference in taxation:

    SPY has a wash sale rule (unless you are classifed by the IRS as a trader);

    ES does not.
     
    #12     May 24, 2008
  3. Biggest differences are leverage and taxation.

    It's more reasonable to start in SPY and as you become consistently profitable make the transition to ES.

    Susana
     
    #13     May 24, 2008
  4. blackdog

    blackdog

    Do you have the temperment to watch your p&l swing like a monkey on a tree in a matter of seconds? If not, stick with SPY. ES is like SPY on rocket fuel and steroids.
     
    #14     May 24, 2008
  5. Thanks for all you responses.

    I ran some analysis on my style of trading and came up that 500 shares of SPY = 1 ES mini. The main reason I wanted to find this diff is becasue my starting style is with 500 shres anyway.

    One big difference is that with SPY I can get out on penny increments, where with ES I have to suffer .25 ($12.50) move (from what I read on the contract spec)

    I suspect the ES liquidity is as good as SPY so slippage should be minimal ....

    I am liking the futures becasue is less regualted and I do not have to get a series 7 for levelrage ! .....

    As long as liquidity is there my current SPY/SPX tech analysis should still work with ES ...

    Thanks again ....
     
    #15     May 31, 2008
  6. :confused:

    I suggest you keep learning about the futures markets before putting real money at risk.
     
    #16     May 31, 2008
  7. Thanks .. that was I been doing the past few weeks .. a different beast ...

    Any good books you recommend ?
     
    #17     Jun 1, 2008