How did you become consistant?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by cashmoney69, Oct 10, 2006.

poll: How did you become consistantly profitable?

  1. I took off all indicators

    19 vote(s)
    13.2%
  2. I have a college degree in math, finance, economics, or computer science

    12 vote(s)
    8.3%
  3. I read as many book as I could

    5 vote(s)
    3.5%
  4. I have a trading plan

    48 vote(s)
    33.3%
  5. I dont trade stocks any more

    5 vote(s)
    3.5%
  6. I changed strategies from day trading to swing trading or longer term

    12 vote(s)
    8.3%
  7. I trade whats "in play"

    7 vote(s)
    4.9%
  8. I take the opposite side of cramer

    7 vote(s)
    4.9%
  9. I only use one chart

    7 vote(s)
    4.9%
  10. other (what?)

    22 vote(s)
    15.3%
  1. volente_00

    volente_00

    practice practice practice


    watching watching watching


    striking striking striking



    rinse and repeat until it becomes autonomic.
     
    #11     Oct 10, 2006
  2. The key to being consistent is the word "rigorous". To a certain extent, education does help. There are also certain natural abilities that one might posess which might help as well.

    However, the true key is being "rigorous". Constantly read, constantly listen, test and re-test your concepts, do not give up (ever), plan, research etc.

    There is a certain amount of labor that comes with any job whether it be being a mechanic at a dealership or an engineer at Boeing. At any one of these jobs, every person is being "rigorous" as that is their trade.

    However, if I am a mechanic at a dealership and mess up on your car, Im not going to empty the bank. Therefore the amount of rigour you need to have is on average much higher then a person at the regular job.

    Whether your very experienced or have no experience, you need to be reading. You need to be planning and constantly learning.

    Dont worry if you mess up at first. Learning to play a musical instrument does not take one day, but many years of practice. Some people will learn to play the trumpet in a few months, others several years.

    Bottomline, think "rigorous". You need to be more rigorous then a mechanic or an engineer at Boeing. There is no insurance policy or large corporation insuring our work. The buck stops here. If your not willing to be rigorous then its time to get a regular job...
     
    #12     Oct 10, 2006
  3. Perhaps a better poll, one which would at least save a great deal of time, might focus on the reasons why none of the advice given in all these threads cannot penetrate Nathan's skull.

    Suggestions?
     
    #13     Oct 10, 2006
  4. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    Sadly, I think some people don't want to do the hard work --- to try various approaches --- to struggle --- until they find what actually works for THEM.
     
    #14     Oct 10, 2006
  5. that's why we gotta go back to capitalization; it costs money to live test strategies and most cant afford to spend any cash into trainin'. u may already be able to exploit a few inneficencies but to become consistent u gotta find sevreal approaches that work for u in different instruments and time frames, and again it costs money very few can afford to lose.
     
    #15     Oct 10, 2006
  6. rcj

    rcj

    Yep. So very TRUE.
     
    #16     Oct 10, 2006
  7. Do the work. That's when you'll see consistency.
     
    #17     Oct 10, 2006
  8. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    If they can't afford to lose some $$$ trying out strategies then I think they need to re-think the barriers to trading. In other words, if someone doesn't have enough $$$ in their account then perhaps they need to save up more $$$. Why do other "traditional" businesses fail? Many reasons --- but under capitalization is one as well as not having a good solid business (i.e. tradin) plan.
     
    #18     Oct 10, 2006
  9. This is probably by far the most difficult issue to deal with, at least in my experience. You really need to develop a certain "meta"-trading intuition, and by that I mean you have to have the ability to anticipate which apparent "edges" are long-lasting/viable to apply significant capital towards, and which are just temporary "coincidental" finds. I am not a system trader by any means, but I think the problem exists for both system and discrectionary traders -- for the latter, this is THE issue one must resolve to be able to confidently trade as a career. I don't know how many times in the past that I'd thought I'd found my personal grail, only to see it slowly deteriorate then disappear; each time, had I allowed myself to go "all out" with applying my capital, my trading tuition would be far more expensive than it already has been.

    One tip I can confidently give you from a discrectionary standpoint is that once you (really) find your own way, you will feel no "urgency" to rush into it -- you know "it" will be there as long as the markets are there. This is the opposite of the feeling someone might have when leveraging any trade to the hilt, hoping to hit it fast and hard, because that's his "only decent shot anyways".
     
    #19     Oct 10, 2006
  10. romik

    romik

    perhaps novice traders need to re-read your post a 100 times to fully understand that trading is just like any other business, different module to a petrol station, a bakery, accountancy firm, etc, though still a business.
     
    #20     Oct 10, 2006