we are here, alive on planet earth. there really is an explantion for how it all happened, but we just don't know and may not even be capable of fully understanding it. to start, i would like to use this example: in kaku's book, "hyperspace", he starts off the book from a fish's perspective. imagine being a fish who exists under water for its whole life. now imagine being a fish who is plucked out of the water. suddenly a whole new world is exposed to it. we could be more complex "fish" living in our little universe which is everything to us. maybe there is an outside to our world that we aren't aware of, much like above water for a fish. i would like this thread to be where you post how the universe exists, BUT WITHOUT RELIGIOUS CRAP! DO NOT POST RELIGIOUS EXPLANATIONS HERE! if you want to discuss religion, start your own thread! religious stuff just gets us off track debating a defunct absurd, fake, concept. please state your beliefs if they are non-religious. overall, my belief is that we are just not capable of understanding it all. for every living thing, there is only so much it can comprehend. i can't explain the moon to an ant. it just can't grasp it. at the human stage, we can understand a lot, but probably not everything. i believe there may be many higher levels above us and i have no idea what they're like.