How did Anek make a 100 grand today?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by ang_99, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. Saxon,

    To set the record straight, Anek is not a current member of our room now:

    He first began trading the index futures back in 2007 when he signed up for our trading room.

    We use his endorsement with his permission:

    Feedback from user Anekdoten - Punta del Este, Uruguay - Jan 23, 2007

    (1:22 PM) Anekdoten: btw, I love being in this room, its just great guys, kudos to all 3 of you
    (1:25PM) CajunSniper: thanks anek just saw your comment
    (1:25PM) CajunSniper: i may throw it up on the site. i feel warm and fuzzy now
    (1:27 PM) Anekdoten: CS - go for it, in fact you should as I got a fanbase from my past equity trading room, as funny as that sounds
    --comment left via live trading room which are now ONLINE at www.puretick.com/chat_logs


    And further clarification. I did not say Anek is driving a truck. He lives in Uruguay from the info that I have. I live in Pennsyvania.
    A member of our trading room claimed that he saw Anek driving a truck. I have never been to Uraguay.

    And what the hell does it matter what he drives. Maybe it is a Hummer.

    Maybe a truck full of gold. Why spread rumors anyway?

    I have no idea what he does for a living.

    And yes we wish him well.

    And for all the detractors, non-believers, idiots, Anek and I have not exchanged emails since the last one I have from him in June of 2007.

    Anek is not paying me for an endorsement.

    From what I understand of Anek he had been trading stocks for a half dozen years before he came to know me.

    His purpose was to get into the fast moving world of index futures. Anek quickly learned that if one is a decent trader he or she can trade gold, stocks or pork bellies equally well.

    Like me, Anek did not achieve success overnight---we both took losses and learned.

    The losers are the ones who are angry, who believe in holy grails, who want to put down efforts to encourage new traders. The pros learn from success as well as failure.

    So stop worrying about what Anek drives or what I fly.

    Grow up and start learning.

    Successfully,

    Alex L. Wasilewski
    Co-Founder & Head Trader
    Trades That Work
    www.puretick.com
    1-877-GOLONG1 (1-877-465-6641)
     
    #71     Nov 17, 2008
  2. #72     Nov 18, 2008
  3. ggoyal

    ggoyal

    cmon man anek. fuck those guys. fuck wasting ur posts on those idiots. your 1000 page thread is all one needs to be successful. you have proven it with facts, those fuckers didnt.
     
    #73     Nov 18, 2008
  4. When someone talks shit behind your back they need to be confronted.

    I'm done expressing my opinion, challenge is there, I'm up for it.

    Back to trading business as usual.

    Anek
     
    #74     Nov 18, 2008
  5. Hey ggoyal:

    How are you doing?

    RFT
     
    #75     Nov 18, 2008
  6. From your writing, I would say that you have a high educational degree, you are not a truck driver, and you have been educated in english-speaking university or in a technical/rigorous scientific area since such training develops super writing skills (for people who read extensively (in any language)).

    PSs:

    1. I was however a bit "disappointed" by your making only 100K that day since from the percentage return (which was around 4.5%?) you underperformed the market on that day which moved (from memory) around 6% that day.

    I would however assume that you have taken less risk that what would one have taken by applying a scaling of 1 and followed the market.

    2. One should also infer that you are trading a 2M+ account. Some people seem not to understand that even a 1% on a 2M is 20K. That is why people who make a bundle tend to simply stick to buying bonds even with a "low return" of 4%, as income is not an issue for them but rather the guarantee that the dollar tree will not be taken in piece by others.

    3. 10M using a 4% return is 400K per year!
     
    #76     Nov 18, 2008
  7. I'm however disappointed in your math it was 4.x % avg per trade, there were 9.

    Anek
     
    #77     Nov 18, 2008
  8. First congrats, but now some remarks:

    1. It is then not in the math but in my interpretation of what was reported (which may be due to the reader, to what is written or a combination of the two). [Math is the only thing in my life in which I have never made a mistake (I am a former medalist in math olympiads)]

    2. When you write average, do you mean arithmetic average (sum divided by number of trades) or geometric average. The latter is the correct statistic, and is always smaller than the former. However if you have no losing trade, they get closer to each other.

    3. What is the standard deviation of your returns?

    (It may be possible to determine bounds on the amount of money you have for trading from your stats, and the total cash you have made!).
     
    #78     Nov 18, 2008
  9. Ouch, I think i called you on the wrong subject, my apologies.

    Here is how it went, I scaled in 50 cars in the afterhours then I started peeling them off scaling out at new lower lows, very close to the "reconstruction" of what that guy posted earlier in the thread. At the end of the day, i made 42.40 net points per car after commission.

    Considering the leverage of futures this is far and beyond a 4% gain.

    It was a swing trade that went very right and I used intraday to scale it out. During the day, when I'm very actively trading, I'm more of a maniac, I do lots of "ins and out" to TRY to maximize the gains.

    Frankly, and I mean this with the utmost humility because I did not get here overnight, I've had far better days but due to reasons beyond the scope of these discussions I don't post them all.

    Congrats on your math achievements, very impressive.

    Anek
     
    #79     Nov 18, 2008
  10. Here is a completely different perspective/style from today.

    Looks like pure scalping, yet it was not, I'm just riding the waves like a surfer.

    One of my most active days in a while.

    I was doing much better, but got greedy at one point and misjudged PA. Either way, once you become one with price, it takes an enormous amount of chop for you to get hurt.

    Anek
     
    #80     Nov 18, 2008