How Covid Lies Are we up to now?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Sep 18, 2021.

  1. Good1

    Good1

    The news out of Israel recently was exactly the opposite.
     
    #31     Sep 19, 2021
  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    Don't be ridiculous. First of all, you are misquoting me. What I said was the Mueller's report provides evidence that there was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians. Konstantin Kilimnik was a business partner of Trump's Campaign manager. They were partners in a political consulting firm. Kalimnik is a Russian. Not only is he a Russian, he is a Russian Intelligence Agent. What else would you like to know. The Mueller report is out, read it yourself. There now, have I provided evidence. No, of course not. The evidence is in Mueller's report!!! This is just one tidbit of all the stuff Barr covered up in his "Summary Report." Barr should be in Jail. Kilimnik should be in jail. Manafort should go back to jail, and Trump should be executed for treason. Are you happy with yourself now. I'm taking a chance here? I am assuming you can read. Get the report and read it for yourself.


    This guy below. That's Trump's campaign manager's partner!
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    #32     Sep 20, 2021
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  3. piezoe

    piezoe

    Yah right. The people in hospitals and dying from Covid in Isreal are all Vaccinated, Only Vaccinated people have Covid in Isreal. Vaccination changes your DNA and causes you to get Covid and die. The U.S. Government is trying to kill everybody that believes Trump is a genius by vaccinating them and changing their DNA so they'll get Covid and die. IDIOT!
     
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  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    is that prosciutto? What else is on it?
     
    #34     Sep 20, 2021
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    Were do these idiots like Good1 and Wildchild come from? It seems there is a higher percentage of them among traders. Until I started hanging out at ET, I thought the dumbest person I had ever met was my City's Planning Department Manager, Boy was I wrong! There is something about ET that makes me feel like I am at a Dog Track watching greyhounds chase a stuffed rabbit.
     
    #35     Sep 20, 2021
  6. Good1

    Good1

    Sure, lets say 97% people in Israel are already vaxxed , so not surprising to see 97% of covid hospitalizations are vaxxed folks. It means the vax is not more or less effective than non-vax.

    Not the US Gov. Current admin policy, and the idiots behind the policy is against everyone. People who identify as Democrat most readily go along cause the admin labels itself "Democrat" instead of authoritarian idiots. To the extent they can differentiate, and target Republicans, they do. Rationing monoclonal to Florida is meant to take DeSantis numbers down, to embarrass him, and keep him out of the oval office in 2024 (cause they hate him). The rationing hurts both vaxxed Democrats and unvaxxed Republicans who come down with the "delta" at about the same rate. They dont give a damn about the sheep (Democrats), because the sheep dont give a damn, as long as a few more Republicans die than they do. Stand anywhere near the fires of hatred and you will get burned.
     
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  7. Good1

    Good1

     
    #37     Sep 20, 2021
  8. themickey

    themickey

    It has a covering of air, if you live in Asia then probably it has a garnish of soot.
     
    #38     Sep 20, 2021
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader



    ...The statistic in question comes from a paper published on July 30 in the agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, which documents an outbreak of COVID-19 in Barnstable County, Massachusetts — elsewhere specified as Provincetown — that primarily occurred in vaccinated people, following large public events in the first half of the month.

    According to the report, of the 469 people included in the study who were in the area between July 3 and July 17 and tested positive for the coronavirus, 74% were fully vaccinated.
    • A total of five people were hospitalized, four of them vaccinated, and there were no deaths. 90% of the subset of people who had sequencing performed on their samples were infected with the delta variant.
    • Although not mentioned in the report, the outbreak overlapped with July Fourth weekend and “Bear Week,” Provincetown’s annual gathering of gay men; 85% of the identified infections were in males. In the summer, the town’s population swells to approximately 60,000 people.
    The report noted that at the time of diagnostic testing, the amount of virus appeared to be about the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated people, a finding that the CDC cited in its decision on July 27 to recommend masks for everyone, regardless of vaccination status, in indoor public spaces in areas with “substantial” or “high” transmission.

    But the 74% figure, while correct, can be misleading without the proper context, experts say, because as vaccination rates increase, it’s entirely expected for a larger and larger proportion of people who are infected to be vaccinated. It doesn’t mean the vaccines don’t work.

    “The problem is we are only looking at those who got infected, not at everyone in the area who was at risk of being infected,” Matthew Fox, an epidemiologist at Boston University School of Public Health, told us in an email. “Provincetown is an area with some of the highest vaccination rates in the country, so if the vaccine was not working, you’d expect the % vaccinated among the infected to be even higher than 75%, but we can’t say that for sure yet because we don’t know the denominators, we’d need more data. That said, all the carefully done studies to date that have included the denominators have shown the vaccine to be highly effective, even outside of the trials.”...

    Numerous posts on Instagram and Facebook have nevertheless seized upon the 74% figure, often using screenshots of news headlines, without the proper context or with additional commentary to give the misleading impression that this is evidence that the vaccines don’t work, that vaccinated people are just as likely or even more likely to spread the virus as those who are unvaccinated, or that something nefarious is afoot...
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    Summary, even if you're fully vaccinated...vaccines are not 100%, nobody said they're 100% and there never will be a vaccine that's 100% to prevent infection...sometimes called the efficacy.

    In contrast, you want to look at the effectiveness to prevent you from being Hospitalized, ICU admission, or Death.

    Therefore, if you're going to be indoors and outdoors with a large group of people, many of who you do not know...you still need to wear your face mask and social distance.

    Simply, this is a Pandemic of those Not Vaccinated.

    This is why many stores that have 100% fully vaccination among their employees...they still wear face masks because they know the science that vaccines are not 100% and there will be breakthrough cases. :D

    wrbtrader
     
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  10. Wallet

    Wallet

    The protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the the unprotected to take the protection that doesn’t protect the protected o_O
     
    #40     Sep 20, 2021