How can a put expire ITM and still lose money?

Discussion in 'Options' started by 1a2b3cppp, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. According to this, a 55 Aug QQQ put will lose money if it is $54.55 by August 8th.


    $54.50 is ITM for a 55 put, is it not?


    (the numbers on there are ROI as a percentage of maximum loss, NOT dollar amounts. For some reason, you cannot select dollar amounts for buying calls/puts on that calculator, although you can for other strategies)
  2. spindr0


    Ummm, d'ya think that might have something to do with what the put was bought for?

    @ v @
    (eye roll)
  3. Currently selling for $1.25

    Minus 31% with one week before expiration looks about right. Sell at about $0.86.

    Is that August 8 or August 13? I think it's August 13.
  4. I thought I read that ITM = profitable (possibly excluding commissions).
  5. $0.50 ITM with one week to expiration. Sell at $0.86, but you bought at $1.25 ( minus 31%)
  6. So what I read about options expiring ITM and being profitable was not correct?

  7. You would have to post the entire paragraph or link to what you read, one sentence can be taken out of context.
  8. lynx


    It currently has $1.27 of time value and no intrinsic value at all.

    54.50 is only $0.50 in the money. So it will only be worth 50 cents when it expires.

    "in the money" only means that it has some intrinsic value. It doesn't mean that it wil be profitable.

    Put another way, ITM/OTM only refers to which side of the strike price it is on.
  9. Just. Wow.
  10. This is one of those rare opportunities to actually identify the easy money on the other side of some of my option trades.
    #10     Apr 27, 2011