How are the wallstreetbets guys so successful?

Discussion in 'Options' started by tradelosses, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. Somebody else’s failure, of course.

    A lot of our perceptions about the path to success are shaped by selection bias. It’s especially true in the modern social media world where failing happens behind closed doors, while victories are widely publicized
     
    #31     Mar 14, 2020
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  2. zghorner

    zghorner

    I lost $20k Friday essentially failing due to not taking the same amount of profit the day before and letting my puts ride...it hurts so much worse than when I read of Livermore or anyone else going bankrupt.

    I love reading and agree that books can save people years of trial and error but they still pale in comparison to personal loss.
     
    #32     Mar 14, 2020
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  3. NOV 22, 2019
    "Top Hedge Fund Bridgewater Bets $1.5 Billion on Market Drop by March"

    https://www.thestreet.com/investing...s-big-on-market-drop-by-march-report-15178391

    Then "someone" goes to China (could be an another country too but this time because of trade war) and puts something into circulation (very similar to "normal" influenza) and commands the main stream media start to hype things.

    Then the march comes and S&P 500 tanks -30% and could go of course much lower...

    Mission accomplished.

    " Cui Tiankai: the US military brought the coronavirus to China"

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/art...-ambassador-over-beijing-coronavirus-comments


    Yes of course he's lying but who do we believe. One thing happens here and another there. There is a lot of dots. When connected it's starting to look a picture ;)
     
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    #33     Mar 14, 2020
  4. ironchef

    ironchef

    Unless you use OPM, like venture investing or hedge fund trading options. The principals hunt for Black Swans or unicorns with OPM, and probably won't go bankrupt themselves.
     
    #34     Mar 14, 2020
  5. yc47ib

    yc47ib

    Greed?
     
    #35     Mar 14, 2020
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  6. zghorner

    zghorner

    A pig got slaughtered, what can I say.
     
    #36     Mar 14, 2020
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  8. So what ?

    It's still extremely huge profits for them.

    We all know the price will recover when the time goes.
     
    #38     Mar 14, 2020
  9. Doh. You do know how hedging works, right? If you are making money on your hedges, you are taking losses elsewhere in your business. In fact, "Bridgewater Pure Alpha was down 13% this month through Thursday following a drop of 8% in the first two months of the year" as per BBG.

    Do we? After the crash in the 80s, Nikkei did not reach new highs for decades.
     
    #39     Mar 14, 2020
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  10. it's because the economy of japan is no growth and pop is actually in decline since the 90's growth is what drive the US indices and any market..what is growth..rising sales and expanding markets. well the GDP is contracting
    Globalization of american companies is what is driving the the US markets. all the companies listed in the SP 500 50% of earnings is from foreign countries ie China, Europe and Asia,south america.
    Globlaziation is behind the growth and profits of the US stock market. as the companies have done well in foreign markets and profits.
    before the 1980's many countries had foreign ownership rules and anti-globalization meaning they don't allow foreign companeis to dominate their industries own too much of their company for good reason..it's become imperialism. the foreign company in your country still answers to it's home HQ or country .
     
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    #40     Mar 14, 2020