House votes 413-1 to protest Chinese crackdown. Yes, its Ron Paul

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TraderZones, Apr 9, 2008.

  1. Yannis

    Yannis

    The little that I know about Chicago Tribune is that it is just about as liberal as the NY Times. Oh well. But, about the CIA, there was a time not so long ago that the American Government used that organization to run around our Congress and fund friendly exiled politicians around the world, and also to influence public opinion and promote American interests.

    For example, the King of Belgium and the King of Jordan were among the famous recipients of CIA funds among many others. That doesn't really mean that these folks were our spies - just that this was the most expedient way to get some money to them and help them do what they were doing, often promote friendship and peace between our two countries. Then of course we supported the likes of OBL, again to promote our interests, and that didn't work too well.

    The only excuse we probably have is that the Soviets were doing the same thing, while the Europeans have even legalized (for many years, still valid today) the payment of "consulting fees" to individuals that help them secure business or influence local politics. We had to hide it, they didn't. Anyway, we won, sort of.
     
    #31     Apr 10, 2008
  2. Tibet doesn't have the world's second largest oil reserve, so your not wanting to "Stop the evil doers" in this case is par for the republican course...

     
    #32     Apr 10, 2008
  3. Yannis

    Yannis

    Do you mean that the Republicans need oil more than the Democrats? That's silly, we all need that commodity, the whole world does. That's why the Middle East is so important to all of us. Do you mean that the Democrats love peace more than the Republicans do? How about Vietnam? Bay of Pigs? Or do you just want to say something bad about Republicans?
     
    #33     Apr 10, 2008
  4. So you are admitting that the Iraq was/is about oil...

    The left wing has been saying that for years, and the right wing has denied it.

    They talked about human rights of the Iraqi people, which of course was a complete crock, because it was about oil...

     
    #34     Apr 10, 2008
  5. Yannis

    Yannis

    Of course is for all of those things - we cannot afford to allow the vast majority of the world's oil to fall in the hands of terrorists. GWB and all serious Republicans never denied that. All of those reasons are valid. But the most important was the fear we all had of Sddam, the guy had to go, that's all.
     
    #35     Apr 10, 2008
  6. Saddam was under threat of being controlled and ousted by terrorists who wanted to take the oil?

     
    #36     Apr 10, 2008
  7. Yannis

    Yannis

    He was encouraging them, training them, funding their operations, gradually behaving more like the head of a terrorist state than a normal leader. Iran was looking to take advantage of the situation. Americans acted to respond to the threat they perceived was looming over the whole free world.
     
    #37     Apr 10, 2008
  8. You really believe that dribble, don't you?

    Americans were fed false information of WMD, scared into a frenzy, and made the wrong decision...

    America was scammed into a war for oil and Israel...

     
    #38     Apr 10, 2008
  9. Saddam committed the cardinal sin.. he nationalized his oil fields.
     
    #39     Apr 10, 2008
  10. 1000

    1000

    Wasn't Saddam giving families of the Palestinians $15-25000 for the suicide bombings against the Israelis?
     
    #40     Apr 10, 2008