House price ETF´s Macroshares Major Metro Hsg Up / Down started trading today

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by ASusilovic, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. umm down a lot more than dmm is up

    wtf
     
    #11     Jul 7, 2009
  2. These ETF's are being "pushed around" on quite low volume. A 1000-share pair-trade could cause a $1 move in each ETF. :cool:
     
    #12     Jul 7, 2009
  3. S2007S

    S2007S

    Huge moves in these today.

    I would throw some money into these but being that they are macroshares I think I will stand far away from these. I have seen their oil up/down go belly up twice.
     
    #13     Jul 7, 2009
  4. As I have said earlier these "products" are pure scam/ponzi/casino that will track absolutely NOTHING.

    The design of the product (shifting treasuries back and forth between trusts) is fundamentally flawed and does not allow any form of arb to ensure prices stay close to NAV, even on the NAV rebalancing day. The ONLY time price equals NAV will be the day when those terminate in 5 years or earlier (see their dead oil shares, UOY and DOY). And what's with the 3X leverage when the product tracks nothing? It's then simply a marketing ploy by the sponsor to cash in on the 3X buzz to the detriment of naive retail investors who buy those shit.

    Also what's with the hidden fees? They cleverly hid a $1.2 million per year FIXED FEE ON TOP OF THE 0.95% expense ratio! Read the fine print of their prospectus and you'll be amazed. With $20 million asset as they have now it's more than 6% a year in fees.

    So let me get this straight, you wanna pay 6% a year to buy a "product" that tracks absolutely nothing. Hmmm, enough said.

    These "products" are a total disgrace to the ETF market. All previous offerings by their sponsor, macro market, failed, and these ones will undoubtedly fail too. I'm just amazed to see that those greedy idiots haven't thrown in the towel yet.
     
    #14     Jul 7, 2009
  5. Take a look right now. The up UMM shares are already at a 30% discount to NAV only after 5 days of trading!

    Seriously, how could the SEC approve these crazy "ETFs" in the first place?!
     
    #15     Jul 7, 2009
  6. Job security and opportunity for brokers and traders. :cool:
     
    #16     Jul 8, 2009
  7. who else bought UMM at 14?
     
    #17     Jul 30, 2009
  8. Hmmm, umm.....the underwriters and GS. :cool:
     
    #18     Jul 30, 2009
  9. S2007S

    S2007S

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