Home Capital (HCG.TO) (HMCBF)

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by m22au, Apr 26, 2017.

  1. m22au

    m22au

    A collapse is not guaranteed.

    I agree they will easily make the $325 million repayment, however this will reduce liquidity to $545 million + $600 million credit line = $1.145 billion.

    Although the pace of overall deposit outflows has slowed in the past week, it looks like liquidity is declining by at least $100 million a week.

    Assuming that pace remains, that would leave only about 12 weeks remaining (12 * $100 million = $1.2 billion) until they reach zero.

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    #51     May 23, 2017
  2. JackRab

    JackRab

    So what are the scenarios?

    1 - bailout by Canadian Gov... (unlikely, since not a system event)
    2 - takeover by larger (unlikely, no-one would be too keen to do that I think)
    3 - propped up with more equity through rights issue (likely, very dilutive)
    4 - other party buys underlying business with a good discount (also likely, but will destroy the business and more likely to be done when other options fail)

    What other options are there for them? That credit facility is just because they are linked with HOOPP through cross-board seats... but that won't last. I doubt it's even legal.
     
    #52     May 23, 2017
  3. jj90

    jj90

    Tough to see any positive scenario playing out. Even the most ardent bulls are betting on a buyout of some sort. Not exactly a turnaround play.
     
    #53     May 23, 2017
  4. JackRab

    JackRab

    Why is it still trading at around 9? Market Cap is still about 600 mln...

    I would say spot at 9 is a positive scenario. It's not going to hit 20+ anytime soon. But any of the negative scenarios would push the price down to sub 3 if not nill....
     
    #54     May 23, 2017
  5. m22au

    m22au

    A positive scenario could be some or all of the following:

    * The pace of deposit outflows slows to a trickle, and then as time progresses, deposits start to very gradually increase

    * Home Capital is able to replace/refinance the $2 billion facility at an interest rate lower than 10%
    (or alternatively, the company is able to survive for another 11 months, and then is able to refinance then).

    * Canadian housing does not crash, and Home Capital's provision for losses remains low.

    * With the company able to finance itself, and with low loan-loss provisions, it is an attractive stock at a discount to book value.

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    #55     May 23, 2017
  6. m22au

    m22au

  7. m22au

    m22au

    Liquid assets:
    Mon May 15: $880 million (May 16 announcement: [$1.48 billion - $600 million])
    Mon May 22: $860 million (May 23 announcement: [$1.46 billion - $600 million])

    Credit line usage from the $2.0 billion facility:
    Mon May 15: $1.40 billion (May 16 announcement)
    Mon May 22: $1.40 billion (May 23 announcement)

    Tue May 23: $1.65 billion (May 23 announcement)
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/canadas-home-capital-draws-down-230342278.html
    "Canada's Home Capital draws down further on credit line"

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    Last edited: May 23, 2017
    #57     May 23, 2017
  8. m22au

    m22au

    HISA balances:
    Mon May 15: $120.9 million (May 16 announcement in table)
    Mon May 22: $115.0 million (May 23 announcement in table)

    Oaken savings accounts:
    Mon May 15: $146.1 million (May 16 announcement in table)
    Mon May 22: $144.3 million (May 23 announcement in table)

    GIC deposits:
    Mon May 15: $12.382 billion (May 16 announcement in table)
    Mon May 22: $12.333 billion (May 23 announcement in table)

    GICs in cashable position:
    Mon May 15: $160 million (May 16 announcement in table)
    Mon May 22: $144 million (May 23 announcement in table)

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    #58     May 23, 2017
  9. m22au

    m22au

  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader