Holy Grail Strategy (knowledge vs. opinion)

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by RockRudy, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. a) No.
    b) Depends on the traders needs and tolerances. I like yes as measured on a daily basis.
    c) No.
    d) No.
     
    #31     Nov 10, 2006
  2. RockRudy

    RockRudy

    I still would like to challenge other successful traders to answer those questions.

    Kiwi-trader:
    can you elaborate on point c). If a good and developed strategy cannot be left alone to trade with just a mere human supervision, what kind of human involvement is required? My point is that you call strategy a good one, but you still cannot leave it alone. While I am not refuting your answer I am looking for some elaboration.

    Thank you.
     
    #32     Nov 10, 2006
  3. Discretionary trading can be better than system trading because you can take context into account. I can program my triggers and basic exits but not all the contextual issues that take it from 50% win rate to 75% win rate.

    And, like many, I enjoy trading.
     
    #33     Nov 11, 2006
  4. Hi Rudy,

    To answer your questions:

    a) Money management is absolutely crucial - you could have an excellent system that generates superb entry signals, but if you trade those signals badly by over-investing or managing your exits poorly, then your excellent system is worth nothing.

    b) Basically I would say yes - the system should work all the time on a specific market. If the rules of the market that you're trading change, then your system may have to change with it.

    c) Yes and no - some mechanical strategies can be completely automated and left to run on something like Tradestation. Personally, I like to have some human input in my daily trading routine rather than rely on a computer 100% - I would say this is personal preference.

    d) Not necessarily - I have traded a long-only system for the past 5 years with similar performance every year.


    Hope this helps

    Feel free to ask any more questions and I will do my best to answer them.


    Thanks

    Damian
    U.S. Share Trader
     
    #34     Nov 11, 2006
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    #35     Jan 1, 2013
  6. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    the holy grail has been found and implemented by many. its having an edge that makes the money that you require consistently. ~m
     
    #36     Jan 1, 2013
  7. Probably the final analysis would be: see the AURYN here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Neverending_Story

    "The two snakes represent the dual nature of the two worlds, Fantasia (German: Phantásien) and Reality,..."
     
    #37     Jan 1, 2013
  8. S&R could be the Grail,if treated right
     
    #38     Jan 1, 2013
  9. The holy grail is an unbeatable system, and that can only come if you spent a great deal of time on the Law of Vibration. If you don't believe me see that on 1/09 - 1/11 there should be a minor top.
     
    #39     Jan 1, 2013
  10. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    If you reduce the definition of The Holy Grail to any consistently profitable trading system, that pretty much renders the definition meaningless.

    I think the Holy Grail is best defined as the best possible trading system, which may not yet exist IRL but we'll never know for sure. Fortunately there are less-than-Grail systems that will still make money.
     
    #40     Jan 1, 2013