hmm.no edges in the markets

Discussion in 'Trading' started by chimera, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. completely agreed....

    characteristics of consistently profitable traders indeed.

    may you trade that way happily, profitably, consistently and always.

    my utmost admiration indeed.

     
    #61     Jul 18, 2013
  2. trilogic

    trilogic

    I agree so much with this thread BUT, I don't believe TA patterns exist, you mean to tell me that there are certain patterns that come up weekly or daily over and over- they would be exploited to the point that they would not work ?

    5 minute 15 minute hourly ? All just some ?
     
    #62     Jul 19, 2013
  3. Redneck

    Redneck


    They certainly do…

    But let’s be clear – PA patterns described in books - No F’n WAY

    PA patterns created by price (aka buyers/ sellers) – most certainly


    There is a language spoken in the mkt – learn it… you unlock all

    btw, these same patterns have worked since the advent of trading

    I'm not shittin you one bit
    RN
     
    #63     Jul 19, 2013
  4. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Price can only move up or down (sideways is not movement). Buyers want a good price and look for signs of price support at a key level; sellers want a good price and look for signs of price resistance at a key level. A certain pattern indicates possible support or resistance has been established that will result in significant follow through in a given direction. Short term traders look to extract a profit out of such a move.

    The pattern is this: http://www.dacharts.com/123.htm

    This pattern is described as indicating a possible trend reversal, but it occurs at any key level such as a pullback in a trend to a trend line or moving average, or a push to a parallel channel for a possible counter-trend scalp.

    The thing is, is doesn't always look identical to the diagram. Sometimes it's a double top or bottom; sometimes is a weak breakout of the previous high/low. The core concept is always the same: The market tried to do something twice and failed, so it's more likely to then do the opposite.

    Helpful hint: On a time-based chart using the bar interval you trade from (5-min, hourly, daily, weekly), look for this pattern in a smaller chart (1-min, 5-min, hourly, daily) as a guide to developing an entry plan once you get a signal in your main trading chart.
     
    #64     Jul 19, 2013
  5. trilogic

    trilogic

    so if its not in the book, where/how to discern ?
     
    #65     Jul 19, 2013
  6. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    I've yet to see a historical chart anywhere where these price action patterns don't occur and produce a tradable result more often than not.
     
    #66     Jul 19, 2013
  7. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    The patterns are in front of you on any chart, and in books, but you have to learn to recognize them at the hard right edge in real time and you have to have a plan for taking advantage of favorable odds based on the pattern.
     
    #67     Jul 19, 2013
  8. Redneck

    Redneck

    Open up a chart - with just price

    Watch, take notes, learn to listen

    it will become clear - maybe not at first... but it will

    RN
     
    #68     Jul 19, 2013
  9. Redneck

    Redneck

    Trilogic

    NOD and I are not dog piling you... its simply we're on the same page


    Join us - please

    :)

    RN
     
    #69     Jul 19, 2013
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    BINGO!
     
    #70     Jul 19, 2013