hmm.no edges in the markets

Discussion in 'Trading' started by chimera, Jul 16, 2013.

  1. ammo

    ammo

    there is the edge that the street has over you,it's psychological edge,for instance at the moment we are coming into end of month,9 1/2-10 1/2 times we rally(no stat just a gyst) so you think a rally into thur is likely,they can pull the rug anytime they want,recognizing those instead of sleeping walking your acct into their pocket is an edge
     
    #601     Jul 28, 2013
  2. cornix

    cornix

    Cui prodest? What is the purpose of teaching someone how to exploit real edges?
     
    #602     Jul 28, 2013
  3. jnbadger

    jnbadger

    It took me so long to realize this.
     
    #603     Jul 29, 2013

  4. I can verify that everything quoted by jack is 100% authentic and if anything understates his importance as a mover and shaker, not to mention an unsung hero and benefactor to millions.
     
    #604     Jul 29, 2013
  5. sheda

    sheda

    Are they? Sound like situational advantages to me, and thats not to take anything away from their value, we can find situational advantages left right and center, a fund accumulating a large position vs a trader of 100 shares that gets an instant fill and the flexibility that comes with that, is that an edge?

    I have always veiwed an edge as more than a situational advantage, as they come and they go, and they are of a million shapes and sizes, some with a lot more value than others, the only edge worth having for retail level is the ability to trade any market long term consistently, out of your own skill.
     
    #605     Jul 29, 2013
  6. Personally I don't have any edge, but I am thinking anyone who possesses the ability (and time - reading over 600 replies in this thread alone by now) to fully understand/ comprehend this kind of ET discussion (ongoing for so many years) about Edges could have a Real edge!
     
    #606     Jul 29, 2013
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Being small is an advantage. But not really an edge as most investors are small.

    These "situations" are persistent. Kleiner Perkins gets the look on every start up.
    Warren buffet has gotten favorable deals for 30 years.
    Banks have a funding advantage over everyone else because they have deposits and the fed window.
     
    #607     Jul 29, 2013
  8. bighog

    bighog Guest


    That statement shows you do not know "shit-from-shinola" about Formula 1 racing. Where are the RED racers in the standings of drivers and construction? The myth is old and outdated at best.

    Folks, understand this: a so called edge is nothing more than a figment of the imagination. In trading your skillset matters and indeed can be called an edge over the others which use osmosis. Edge resides in the mind and no where else. Ability must not be confused with being a myth, ability is there, edge is not. :D
     
    #608     Jul 29, 2013
  9. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Ferrari stands alone on top of the all time list.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/f1/news?slug=ycn-8030784

    If you research Google carefully, you'll find out the WHY (edge) the Ferrari teams have an edge over others in the past that has recently changed involving the types of tires being contracted and financial strength. In contrast, this years standings has my favorite Red Bull Racing-Renault on top.

    http://www.formula1.com/teams_and_drivers/

    Here's a few recent articles where most F1 racing teams are finding their edge and what they consider to be a critical race issue involving their pit crews.

    http://www.avtimes.net/cmlink/gmg/c...n-seeking-elusive-2-second-pit-stop-1.560035/

    My favorite paragraph from the above article is this involving another edge some teams are working on...

    I'm now curious about how many traders do videotaped trading sessions for later review by them or others...would it contain invaluable information to help a trader improve his/her performance.

    Anyways, like I said many times...their are many types of edges that a person can develop to get a competitive edge. Simply, traders that run around believing there's only one type of edge and it only involves their trade method...good luck with your trading career and mental/physical health. :D

    You need a complete trading plan and several different edge types beyond the trade method to endure/adapt every trading year.
     
    #609     Jul 29, 2013
  10. Now the edge resides in the mind.
    Now edge is psychological.
    Clearly not a system traders?
    This thread should be closed with edge resides in mind, a fitting end to thread title.

    Perhaps you mean the performance based aspect of this business.

    Trading is performance-based BUT you must have a systematic edge to last...positive expectancy (or Over time, you are going to have winning results).
    Expectancy E = (% winners * Avg win) + (% losers * Avg loss)

    Everyone should be able to collect the numbers and be able to calculate the expectancy of their strategies. Log/Journal.
     
    #610     Jul 29, 2013