Will this be the Clinton administration part deux? First Emanuel and now Hilldabeast. Hardly the change people were expecting. The way this is starting to shape up the only difference between the Clinton years and the Obama years is that Obama is actually black, whereas Clinton was just a make believe black. I said I'd give him some time, but this isn't looking good. He's surrounding himself with old political hacks and has said nothing to demonstrate he has a clue about how to solve the economic crisis.
What is it that people hate about the Clinton years? I don't get it. Aside from some impropriety here and there that the upcoming administration can avoid it wasn't that bad. There are worse things possible than a Clinton administration part 2.
Just a staunch conservative chiming in, Hillary will probably be a good choice for Obama as an attempt to unify his party. Not trying to sound chauvinistic here, I'm not, but there was a time that I thought a Woman would not be readily accepted by other countries, but it does not seem to be the case today. While the Secretary of State pushes the Administration's agenda not their own, the main asset would be to come off tough, and that I have no problem with Hillary being able to accomplish. Much better Her that Kerry. What I do have a problem with is the fact that Obama ran on a campaign of change. Not a change from Repubs necessarily but a change in the way Washington thinks and has operated in the past, but all I see is the same old faces being put into positions within his administration, this is setting up to be another term of a parties agenda and not what's best for America. Before you go bashing, I'm not saying the current administration's policy was the best and those in power now are guilty of the same, but until we break the cycle of lifelong politicians, governing from their self interests nothing will "really" change. fwiw
The first 2 years were not good then the Republicans took over congress, this forced Clinton to become a free trade, welfare reforming moderate. Clinton also benefited in the economic conversation to the electronic age and the dot.com phase. Where he failed is understanding the threat from terrorist especially after the 93' bombing. He also cut military spending. If Obama goes moderate we may survive. It is the only chance.
obama and hillary sittin in a tree.... K - I - S - S - I - N - G....first comes a TAX, then come ATTACKS.......... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/17/hillary-clinton-secretary-of-state :eek:
Very interesting. How could she possibly be confirmed when Bill has all these shady deals with Dubai, Khasakstan or wherever? Is this a ploy to embarrass her or marginalize her? Or simply a way to appear conciliatory to clinton supporters? The Hillary/Richardson dynamic will be interesting to watch as well. Richardson was given not one but two Cabinet level positions by Bill, then turned around and backstabbed Hillary in the primaries. He didn't just decide to back obama, he did it in a way to make Hillary look particulalry bad. The Clintons hate him and might insist on him being shut out as the price of their cooperation. My guess is she gets the State job. Otherwise, why all the publicity? For her not to get it now would look very bad. The Democrat Senate will not be interested in Bill's shady deals, and Republicans are too timid to object.
Well said. It is a second coming of the Slick Willy. He will mentor Obama in the art of getting away with the crime . Obama is equally good liar as his " change " bs was swallowed whole by nations dumb majority . As far as the rest of his promises ? Don't hold your breath.
DECIPHERING HILLARY By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN "What is happening behind the scenes in the pas de deux between Obama and Hillary on her possible appointment as Secretary of State? Itâs hard to tell, but the smoke signals suggest a pattern. Move One: Obama Makes An Offer At their meeting last week, Obama seems to have discussed the possibility of appointing Hillary to State. He may not have overtly offered the job and may have done so out of politeness, but he must have raised the prospect and discussed it with her. Move Two: Clinton Leaks the âOfferâ Whether or not Obama really offered her the job, Hillary tried to lock him into the appointment by leaking the âoffer.â The leak would not have come from Obama and must have come from the New York Senator. It was likely an attempt to force Obama to give her the job by making it public. Now, if he says no, he will have lots of explaining to do to Hillaryâs famed â18 million voters,â those who backed her candidacy in 2008. Move Three: Obama Puts Out Mikva To Throw Cold Water on Appointment President-elect Obama, sensing that he was being boxed into making the appointment, and possibly angered by Hillaryâs brazen tactics, likely suggested to his buddy former President Clinton counsel Abner Mikva that he discuss the drawbacks of the appointment in public. Mikva, a former federal judge who gave up a lifetime appointment to serve as President Clintonâs first White House counsel, dislikes the Clintons and spoke privately about needing to take a shower after he resigned one year into the first term. Mikva spoke in public about the conflicts of interest between Billâs foreign activities and his refusal to release his foundation and library donors and Hillaryâs possible appointment. The message to the Clintons was: this could get embarrassing. Move Four: Bill Offers to Come Clean, Partially Responding indirectly to the Mikva statement, former president Clinton offered to cease some of his foreign activities, vet others, and submit his âmajorâ donors to Obama and ethics office scrutiny. In a hilarious move, Clinton named best friend Bruce Lindsay and former counsel Cheryl Mills to negotiate with his own former chief of staff and now Obama transition head John Podesta on the disclosures and ethics limits. Move Five: Hillary Has Her Aides Talk Up the Appointment Continuing her desperate efforts to get the job, Hillary likely had her aides issue statements about how thrilled she was at the prospect of doing all the good she could do as Secretary of State. But they were all still careful to offer an out by saying that she was torn between her love of serving the world and her love of shaping health care reform in the Congress. Move Six: Obama Gets Kennedy to Give Hillary an Out Meanwhile, Obama, probably thinking more and more about the downside of appointing Hillary, got Ted Kennedy to offer Hillary the job he had denied her when she asked for it last week â a legislative role in shaping health care reform. Hillary had asked Kennedy to appoint her to head a subcommittee on health care reform, a request the Massachusetts Senator turned down. Now, likely on prompting from Obama, he offered her the chairmanship of a working group on health insurance reform. The offer was probably designed by Obama to offer Hillary a graceful way to decline the State Department rather than admit that it was Billâs financial dealings that made the job impossible. Where is this all heading? In the world of Hillary and Bill predictions are almost impossible. But Obama and the world would be well served if Hillary did not get the job."
At first I was supporting her possible appointment, but after thinking it through, I think she is too hawkish to fix the problems we've gotten ourselves into the last few years. c