Hillary as VP???

obama is a socialist by today's standards and a communist by the standards of our parents' generation.

his withdrawal plan entails leaving behind 40 to 80 thousand troops as peace keepers. i call that occupation. he has gone on record supporting attacking pakistan and when he had the opportunities to vote against funding the war he instead voted yes.

i don't dislike him anywhere near the level of the monster and mccain though.

 

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/02/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhan-take-on-whitey/

I learned over the weekend why the Republicans who have seen the tape of Michelle Obama ranting about “whitey” describe it as “STUNNING.” I have not seen it but I have heard from five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape. It features Michelle Obama and Louis Farrakhan. They are sitting on a panel at Jeremiah Wright’s Church when Michelle makes her intemperate remarks. Whoops!! When that image comes out it will enter the politcal ads hall of fame. It will be right up there with the little girl plucking daisy petals in the famous 1964 ad LBJ used against Barry Goldwater.

Barack may have quit his church but his religious problems are not over. Barack Obama has a Nation of Islam problem that will receive more attention in the coming days. Before Barack came on the scene, THE MAN in his political district was Louis Farrakhan. No one could take Alice Palmer’s seat without Farrakhan’s blessing. No one. I do not fault Barack Obama for seeking out the blessing of Farrakhan, but the story of what was done behind the scenes to get rid of Barack’s predecessor—Alice Palmer—has not been told. A knowledgeable source tells me that Tony Rezko played a direct role in this feat. And Rezko has been tight with Farrakhan.

It also should come as no surprise that Barack hired two members of the Nation of Islam to work on his staff—Jennifer Mason and Cynthia K. Miller. (And no, I am not merely recycling info initially reported by Debbie Schlussel. I have two independent Chicago sources for this info.) If Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger had kept their yaps buttoned none of this would mean much. But the fact that both men have been—until scrubbed from the website in recent weeks—listed as spiritual advisors to Barack Obama and also are very close to Louis Farrakhan, forces the question about Barack’s faith and beliefs.

In probing those matters we begin to understand that the Nation of Islam has been a critical component of Barack Obama’s base of support. And, I am told, Louis Farrakhan has been careful to use Tony Rezko as the intermediary in his relationship with Barack. This is not guilt by association, this is guilt because of actual relationship. Farrakhan, Wright, and Pfleger are each on tape in various settings spewing the most vile racists garbage in the guise of preaching. Barack Obama, up to this point, has tried to pretend he had no idea that these men had these thoughts or said these things.

NONSENSE!! He knew and he knows. And the gig will be up when the Michelle tape hits the airwaves. One source described how this tape was acquired. Let’s just say that one of the republican candidates who is no longer in the race, but had a dandy oppo research capability, uncovered this gem. If Republican poohbahs have their way the tape will remain on ice until October. But when it comes out, Barack will be permanently branded with the Nation of Islam. That’s not a winning platform in November. And Barack’s bundlers understand this threat. I also have learned some major financial backers are asking the Barack team about the tape and are being stonewalled. It is a wild card in the political campaign that has not yet played out.....

 

Obama VP will probably be John Edwards.

Women voters lie about issues being important. However, looks are THE MOST important criteria for women, especially white women. Their pussy gets wet when they see Edwards on TV.

Latinos are irrelevant in this race. Most won't vote for McCain because of the immigration crackdown. And most won't vote for Obama because, let's face it, deep down the LaRaza crowd are pretty racist. Voting day they'll stay home and get drunk. He can still win if he can bus the drunks to a voting booth.

The neocon 25 percentile are behind McCain. You gotta love the 25 percentile. They're like battered wives. The more you beat them, the more they love ya.

 

You know absolutely nothing about US politics.

Latino vote is crucial! And they like McCain's immigration views. Conservatives don't, but Mexicans here do. The vote throughout the western mtn states is very close, and very Latino.

Edwards lost last time around. He won't be the choice. if Hillary doesn't muscle her way on to the ticket, OB is going with someone that can help him get a crucial state such as Ohio (Strickland maybe).

 

NO MÉNAGE-À-TROIS FOR OBAMA

By DICK MORRIS

"Putting Hillary Clinton on the ticket for vice president creates a ménage-à-trois. Bill will be the unexpected roommate. Even if a President Obama can discipline Hillary and get her to play second fiddle, there is not the remotest chance that he can get the former president to accept such rules. Even if Bill Clinton wanted to rein in his newly prolific public expressions of rage and frustration, there is doubt that he is any longer capable of doing so.

Hillary, who likely desperately wants to be tapped for vice president, is going about it in exactly the wrong way. She seems to be demanding a kind of coalition government between herself and Obama, a definition of the vice presidency not likely to appeal to the president. It reminds me of 1980 when there were discussions of a ticket with Reagan as the presidential nominee and former President Gerald Ford as the vice president in a coalition government where the VP would have extraordinary powers.

Intended to reassure voters who were panicked by Reagan’s “extreme” conservatism, the arrangement never came to fruition, a development which gave us the House of Bush.

Instead of conceding defeat and campaigning for Obama, auditioning for the spot of loyal teammate, Hillary insists on keeping her options open and vies for the spotlight with Obama, exactly what you do not want a vice president to do.

Last night, when Obama went over the top in delegates and could claim the nomination as his, Hillary organized a rally of all of her supporters, directly competing for airtime with the newly minted nominee.

Adding Hillary to the ticket would not bring Obama a single vote (except possibly for Bill’s). Her supporters are divided into two distinct categories. The original Clintonistas were strong Democrats, party faithful, pro-choice, middle-aged and up, largely female and all white. But Hillary’s recent backers have been downscale whites of both genders who were turned off by Obama’s pastor, wife and other associates and were afraid he might be a Muslim in disguise. Unhappy about voting for a woman, they never really liked Hillary but turned to her when the alternative was Obama.

If Hillary had won the Democratic nomination, these latent backers of Hillary in the primaries might still have voted for McCain in the general. Their support of Hillary is purely linked to her opposition to Obama. Were she to join the ticket, they would vote for McCain anyway. After all, Obama will still be black and the Rev. Wright will still be nuts.

But adding Hillary to the ticket brings, along with her, Bill.

The public Bill Clinton has morphed over the past few months from a statesman and philanthropist to a petulant, angry, cursing, spoiled narcissist, accusing everyone of being sleazy and biased and in so doing fashioning himself as a foil for Obama. This unattractive image is not the right one for the bottom of a ticket in a presidential race. And make no mistake, Bill comes along with Hillary.

But the more serious problem is the public record that Todd Purdum, an excellent journalist, laid out in his Vanity Fair piece. Bill’s relationships with billionaires, his pursuit of financial gain, his alliance with the emir of Dubai, and his acceptance of speaking fees and income from some of the least savory of types is not what you need to carry around with you in a presidential race. To put Hillary on the ticket is to confront nagging questions about donors to the Clinton Library and Bill’s refusal to release them. It would be to inherit a load of baggage that Obama does not need as he tries to position himself as the candidate of change, antithetical to the corrupt and corrupting ways of Washington.

On her own, Hillary would be no bargain as vice president. She would never accept direction and never sublimate her ambition or agenda to Obama’s. But with Bill in tow, her candidacy becomes even more fraught with peril should Obama be inclined to bow to pressure and put her on the ticket."

 

The only reason for Hillary to be on the ticket as VP would be for her fund raising prowess using the excuse that she woud draw various voting bloc.

If the Dems put her on they have chosen money over the good of the party. Let the chips fall where they may, lose the race we got the money. If this scenario unfolds, very sad state of affairs.

 

Give Hillary credit. Even as the waters closed over her, she reached up and grabbed Obama by the throat. She announced in a conference call to reporters the day Obama clinched the nomination that she would take the VP slot. Of course, that story dominated the news, not Obama's coronation.

Her blunt statement that she would accept the job if offered is tantamount to pleading for it, since most would-be VPs will refuse to discuss the possibility. They refuse to discuss it because to do so puts both the nominee and them in an awkward position. But that is exactly what Hillary wanted to do. She knows full well that Obama would rather have George Bush on the ticket with him than her, for all the reasons Dick Morris laid out. She also knows that to reject her, after she has made the offer, will make him look petty and mean-spirited. After all, she won more votes than he did. Either way, she wins. Nice move.

 

ratboy,

What's your level of confidence that this tape exists? Considering the high degree of opposition research the Clintons are capable of I would think that if it did exist then Team Hillary would have played that card already.

 

Good analysis, AAA, I agree.

 

BO doesn't have to reject her...he can simply ignore her during the VP process. Therefore he doesn't appear petty at all. He appears busy as the leader of the party and she looks pathetic groveling for the VP offer.