High Yield (Asset-Backed Lending) Investors Wanted

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by 2cents, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. As most non-high yield / ABL players wouldn't know:
    . we are generally talking short-term facilities (up to a year, sometimes 2), highly secured ie with first rankings on everything legally available to cover from 2 to 5 or more times the size of the facility itself should the borrower default on terms etc
    . such asset-backed loans are only made when the borrower can provide a strong rationale for it and when the lender has robust reasons to believe in continued operations from the borrower beyond maturity date
    . lenders in this market typically require transaction IRRs in the 25%+ overall range with equity upside

    Thats a niche market obviously - otherwise those terms wldn't be achievable... - but with significant depth in $ terms. lots of the deals are re-financing type, but despite the "generous" terms, lots of high yield credit providers & institutions generally having been burned elsewhere, there is an "opportunity" window for cash-rich "outsiders" to take a seat a the table. The table being CS, UBS and all the usual suspects, arrangers of quality high-yield facilities...

    Am ex-CS and working with an ex-CS colleague who has built the credit pipeline for years at CS till early this year.

    Anyone who believes they could use a seat at the table, feel free to pm me with reasonable info, particulary if no prior ET history. For avoidance of doubt, ticket sizes are in the $mio range, double digit preferred...

    Facetious responses will be ignored.

    Greetings everyone!
  2. 1) What type of assets are backing these loans

    2) What type of activities are the funds used for

    This sounds like Hard Money lending, is there any particular difference between these projects and what ABC hard money lenders do?

    Do you have a Powerpoint presentation or a Word 1-pager for this?
  3. yes, more commonly they are called terms sheets and in this mkt they usually run over a few pages with all the relevant specifics... and yes its about hard cash... but as per my thread opening mail thats only for qualifying parties, thks for asking
  4. Don't need a term sheet for a specific deal, need an overview of the entity doing this, which I assume, would be structured as a hedge fund. I asked you for a presentation or a tearsheet (aka 1-pager) for serious reasons. But it seems that you are a little too pompous, so good luck.
  5. you are assuming too much... my opening post shld be clear enough in terms of how i intend to handle... bye
  6. Too juicy for me, I'm afraid, and too many unknowns.
  7. thats on purpose - i'd prefer not to give marketers ideas... - but a few questions are fair game

    what we are pitching is introduction plain and simple to top-tier investment bank*-arranged syndications, for qualifying parties. HNW or family office types are familiar and equipped to perform their own DD on a deal by deal basis and to manage their own portfolio directly if they elect to do so. Can be more attractive than investing in a fund since it gives them more control and removes a layer... that doesn't always add value...

    besides, post-madoff and petters, ABL funds are not a very attractive proposition (not saying that we don't have a fund in place, just that the market is what it is)... but holding short-term high yield highly secured paper directly should be.

    admittedly our target audience could just try to knock on the banks' doors themselves... my partner having built the credit pipeline at CSFB in Asia till recently and being well respected on the market, ie he has access to other banks' pipelines, we believe there is value in going with us instead... its not just advisory, we are putting some skin in the game as well...

    *: CS (CSFB), UBS, JPM, Citi...
  8. educational:

    CIT Hit With Interest Rate More Than 25 Times Libor

    July 22 (Bloomberg) -- Pacific Investment Management Co., Centerbridge Partners LP and the four other bondholders that put up $2 billion in financing for CIT Group Inc. made an instant $100 million on an investment analysts say is almost risk free.

    CIT, the 101-year-old commercial lender struggling to retire $1 billion of debt maturing next month, agreed to pay a 5 percent fee to the creditors and annual interest of at least 13 percent. On top of that, the New York-based company pledged assets worth more than five times the amount of the loan as collateral.

    “The terms are egregious,” said Dwayne Moyers, the chief investment officer at Fort Worth, Texas-based SMH Capital Advisors, which oversees $1.4 billion, including more than $70 million of CIT bonds. “They ripped the faces off everyone with these terms.”

    CIT, led by Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Jeffrey Peek, said in a regulatory filing yesterday that the loan doesn’t solve the funding challenges and it may be forced to seek bankruptcy protection unless holders of $1 billion in floating-rate notes due Aug. 17 accept 82.5 cents on the dollar for the debt.

    The securities fell 2.7 cents to 82.6 cents on the dollar as of 4:36 p.m. in New York, according to Trace, the bond-price reporting system of the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority. The company’s $500 million of 4.125 percent notes maturing in November fell 7 cents to 61.5 cents on the dollar, Trace data show.

    CIT shares fell 11 cents to 87 cents in New York Stock Exchange composite trading.

    Baupost, Oaktree

    Besides Newport Beach, California-based Pimco, the manager of the world’s biggest bond fund, and Centerbridge of New York, the debt holders providing the financing are Boston-based hedge fund Baupost Group LLC, Capital Research & Management Co. of Los Angeles, Oaktree Capital Management LLC and Silver Point Capital LP in Greenwich, Connecticut, people familiar with the deal said. London-based Barclays Plc is arranging the funding.

    Howard Marks, chairman of Los Angeles-based Oaktree and spokespeople for Silver Point, Capital Research and Barclays, declined to comment. Officials at Baupost, Centerbridge and Pimco didn’t return calls seeking comment.

    “The board of directors believed it was in the best interest for all stakeholders,” Curt Ritter, a CIT spokesman, said of the financing. He declined to comment on the terms of the loan.

    General Electric’s Offer

    CIT rejected over the weekend a General Electric Co. offer of at least $2 billion in loans backed by aircraft, four people familiar with the matter said. While less costly and requiring less collateral than the loans from bondholders, funds wouldn’t have been available until July 31, said two of the people, who didn’t want to be identified because the offer wasn’t public.

    CIT gave details on the rescue funding in the regulatory filing. The company, which has lost $3 billion in the last eight quarters, also said it expects to report a $1.5 billion loss for the second quarter.

    Bondholders made $2 billion available immediately and promised another $1 billion by the end of the month. The group received a 5 percent commitment fee on the 2 ½ year loan, amounting to $100 million on the $2 billion already provided. They will receive a 1 percent annual payment on the amount that’s not drawn upon, the company said.

    Collateral’s Book Value

    The book value of the collateral must be more than five times the amount of the loan and the so-called fair value must be more than triple the debt, the filing said. If CIT wants to retire the loan early, it must pay a 2 percent exit fee in addition to a prepayment premium of 6.5 percent on the amount it wants to reduce, the filing said. The 6.5 percent will decline to zero over 18 months.

    Interest will be set at 10 percentage points more than the London interbank offered rate, which will have a floor of 3 percent. Three-month Libor was set at 0.502 percent today.

    Even if CIT fails, the bondholder group will probably make money because of the collateral, according to Sean Egan, president of Egan-Jones Ratings Co. in Haverford, Pennsylvania. The lenders have “virtually 100 percent assurance” they’d be able to recoup all their money in a bankruptcy, said Sameer Gokhale, an analyst with Keefe Bruyette & Woods Inc. in New York.

    ‘Don Corleone Financing’

    “This is called Don Corleone financing,” Egan said, referring to the patriarch in the organized-crime family depicted in the 1972 film, “The Godfather.” “You can’t lose money on this deal.”

    Outside of the “urban underworld,” Egan, 52, said he couldn’t recall seeing a loan backed by as much collateral that paid interest rates so high. “These terms would make a pawn- shop operator blush.”

    Bankruptcy loans arranged this year have an average interest rate of 7.25 percentage points more than Libor, compared with 5.3 percentage points in 2008, Bank of America Merrill Lynch analysts led by Jeffrey Rosenberg wrote in a report last month. So-called debtor-in-possession loans never exceeded 4 percent over Libor before that, they said.

    The most actively traded high-yield loans had an interest margin of 6.1 percentage points over Libor as of July 21, according to Standard & Poor’s LCD unit. High-yield, or leveraged, loans are rated below Baa3 by Moody’s Investors Service and less than BBB- by S&P. CIT’s senior unsecured debt is rated Ca by Moody’s and CC by S&P.

    The rescue package offers CIT time to avert a bankruptcy, said Renee Dailey, a partner at Bracewell & Giuliani LLP in Hartford, Connecticut. The company said yesterday that $7 billion in unsecured debt comes due through June 30.

    Risk of Failure

    CIT hasn’t been able to sell corporate bonds in more than a year and has been denied access to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.’s program to issue government-backed securities. It turned to bondholders after failing to win U.S. government assistance.

    “The new money does provide the company another chance to avoid a bankruptcy filing and generally a bankruptcy means destruction of value,” Dailey said.

    CIT’s floating-rate notes due in August have climbed from a record low of 70.5 cents at the end of last week.

    The company has said its bankruptcy would put 760 manufacturing clients at risk of failure and “precipitate a crisis” for as many as 300,000 retailers, according to internal documents.

    Exxel Outdoors Inc. is “scrambling” to find alternative funding because of CIT’s difficulties, Harry Kazazian, chief executive officer of the Haleyville, Alabama-based maker of sleeping bags and tents, said yesterday.

    Dunkin’ Brands

    A failure of CIT would also lessen financing options for franchisees of Dunkin’ Brands Inc., owner of the Dunkin’ Donuts and Baskin-Robbins chains, Michelle King, a spokeswoman for the Canton, Massachusetts-based company, said in an e-mailed statement last week.

    Microsoft Corp., the world’s largest software maker, said it plans to work with a number of financial institutions after ending its agreement with CIT. Customers that already used CIT to pay for Microsoft products will continue to get financing from the lender, Stacie Sloane, a spokeswoman for the Redmond, Washington-based company, said in a statement.

    The software company had signed an exclusive agreement with CIT beginning in France and Switzerland in 2006, and expanded the deal to other countries in 2007. Microsoft declined to say how much financing is provided to customers.

    ‘Ironclad Deal’

    Bondholders that didn’t participate in the rescue financing may fare worse in a CIT bankruptcy because so much of the assets are pledged as collateral, said Adam Cohen, founder of debt research firm Covenant Review LLC in New York.

    “As a CIT unsecured bondholder you’re better off than you were on Friday, but if they go into bankruptcy you’re not going to be too happy other holders jumped ahead of you,” Cohen said.

    SMH Capital’s Moyers said he doesn’t expect the company to file for bankruptcy. If it does, bondholders will try to reclaim assets backing the loan, he said.

    “Cost, when you’re on the verge of filing for bankruptcy, becomes less of an issue,” said Mike Taiano, an analyst with Sandler O’Neill & Partners LP in New York. “It’s a pretty ironclad deal from the lenders’ perspective, given the amount of assets that are behind it as well as the rate and fees they’re getting.”
  9. and despite the squealing etc that these terms are extortionate etc, they are not, CIT went into this eyes open... this is high-yield... and in Asia we get even better deals since the mkt is less mature, less competitive, there is less $ sloshing around...

    other thing, being on the verge of bankruptcy is a common driver, but we also see situations of firms being on the verge of an IPO, not willing to divest / sell an asset at the wrong time so as not to attract potentially negative media attention... PR... comes at a cost...
  10. #10     Dec 4, 2009