Hidden options order @ IB

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by tonyf, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    I would urge you to read the exchange filings - there is a fair amount of misinformation about hidden liquidity and hidden orders in options.
     
    #11     Jul 22, 2020
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  2. guru

    guru


    Looks like IB implements some of its own workarounds, while potentially not supporting all exchange features, though IB does implement some exchange-specific features selectively. Basically their SMART routing hides some of that functionality, which is OK to an extent.
    Though hiding options orders seems difficult in general, and I personally have difficult time to find any other hidden orders when I'm walking my own orders and don't hit any hidden liquidity.
    Also, hiding an order would probably exclude it from the initial auction, while my visible orders sometimes seem to get picked immediately through the auction process. All this just works differently than with stocks and there may be downsides to trying to hide options orders. Though personally I wish this was widely supported.
     
    #12     Jul 22, 2020
  3. how can you show only part of your share? I mean how to configure tws to do that?
     
    #13     Jul 22, 2020
  4. guru

    guru


    I do that when submitting orders via API, but I think you you can also submit order manually and later change the display qty. Add display size column to your open orders window/panel.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2020
    #14     Jul 22, 2020
  5. guru

    guru

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    #15     Jul 22, 2020
  6. which field to set for api iceberg orders?
     
    #16     Jul 22, 2020
  7. guru

    guru

    #17     Jul 22, 2020
  8. FSU

    FSU

    Interesting, I never realized this. Thanks for the insight.
     
    #18     Jul 23, 2020
  9. JSOP

    JSOP

    Whenever an order is not marketable, IB will keep it on its own server instead of sending it to the exchange and will only send it to the exchange when it matches the bid or ask. The problem with that IB will send it at the last minute when the order matches the bid or ask on the exchange and when that happens it might become a market order ie liquidity-taking order and it incurs a commission instead of receiving a possible rebate even if your hidden order is originally a limit order aka liquidity-adding order. And if you happened to be routing the order to an exchange that charges higher commissions for liquidity-taking orders, then you get doubly screwed.

    Just be prepared for that.
     
    #19     Jul 25, 2020
  10. What you described is for option hidden only I guess. For stocks, IB sends hidden order directly to the exchange,am I right?
     
    #20     Jul 25, 2020