Hi I am Donald Trump...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Jun 9, 2016.

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    #31     Jun 11, 2016
  2. He's just a very poor leader, characterize it any way you want. His budget plans were an ego exercise. Neither he nor anyone else thought they had the slightest chance of passing. In fact, they ended up hurting Romney badly in key states like Florida, since Ryan's big idea was to punish core republican constituencies to free up funds to lavish on Obama's voters.

    Of course the media paint him as some kind of profile in courage, since, like John McCain, he's always at the front of the line when the media wants a republican to criticize another republican.
     
    #32     Jun 11, 2016
  3. The problem is that when a RINO like Romney is the nominee or a guy like McCain that many conservatives detest, we are expected to grit our teeth and fall into line and support the team. And by and large, we have done it and stood there and watched these losers run terrible campaigns and lose to a joke like Obama.

    Now when the shoe is on the other foot, we get this NeverTrump crap and active efforts to undermine the candidate and elect Hillary.

    The fact is that Trump and Ryan disagree on virtually every major issue. Ryan has never been elected to even a statewide office and Trump is the presidential nominee, so which one should fall into line? Guys like Ryan can continue to try to please the media and ignore voters, but there will be payback. Count on it. They are kidding themselves thinking that things go back to normal once Trump is gone, and they can get back to lying to voters then selling them out after the election.
     
    #33     Jun 11, 2016
  4. piezoe

    piezoe

    The Republican party's anarcho capitalists have moved so far to the right that the political spectrum has been expanded to the point that center-left Democrats appear as socialists and center-right Republicans as center-left. The right wing of the Republicans has turned half of their Republican brethren into homeless waifs and created the chance of a lifetime for the liar and opportunist Trump. I laugh when I read talk of Obama 'the socialist'. Any dispassionate appraisal of his presidency would have him, on balance, as a Centrist. One's personal perspective can, and does, create new personal realities far removed from the actual.
     
    #34     Jun 11, 2016
  5. Snarkhund

    Snarkhund

    Whatever may happen in November the one thing I know for sure is that Trump is going to seriously damage Hillary Clinton. He is going to say the stuff many have been thinking for years. Everything this woman has touched has turned into shit. When you fuck up in business people go to jail. When you fuck up as Sect. of State people *die*. Hillary Clinton's incompetence directly resulted in the deaths of US citizens and a US Ambassador.

    You can't just play that off.

    Even if she isn't indicted by her co-conspirator Obama she is going to be called out for willfully compromising the security of the United States by storing thousands of classified emails on her home server. The arrogance and incompetence of Clinton's tenure at State is going to be publicly reviewed and it is going to make Barrack Obama look incompetent as well.

    She is going to be destroyed and she is going to take the Obama legacy down with her.
     
    #35     Jun 11, 2016
  6. So if people are already "thinking it," then how will it cause incremental damage?
     
    #36     Jun 11, 2016
  7. So you think that fringe (extremist) Right Wingers have a better chance with the general electorate than more middle-of-the-road Republicans like McCain and Romney? Please tell me how that works. Because more non-Republicans are now registering to vote so that they can vote against Trump.
     
    #37     Jun 11, 2016
  8. Trump can't get a fair trial anywhere, not after the MSM reports on it. Trump is bothering people because he's looking at what's going on and seeing really STUPID things: Criminal gangs controlling the Mexican border instead of the US government doing one of it's two Constitutional mandates. :Foreigners replacing native sons in jobs too.
     
    #38     Jun 11, 2016
  9. wildchild

    wildchild

    Well according to Trump this is great leadership. You put something forward that has no chance of being adopted as a negotiation tactic. It was the first run at a bill that had to go through both houses. Yes it was going to change dramatically from the first draft.
     
    #39     Jun 11, 2016
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    I agree with you wildforchild
     
    #40     Jan 17, 2020