HFT Myths

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by hft, May 3, 2013.

  1. baglunch

    baglunch

    I feel like this would be rare because the risk of litigation is high and in the worst case you could face prison time.

    At least in my own experience, we rent whole cages. Also some exchange colos do not let you or your own remote hands to enter the site, in some cases you must use the data center's staff to install new hardware.

    One odd thing I saw when I was visiting one prop firm's office was that they literally padlocked a gate in front of the elevator after closing up for the day. I guess this was so that no one could break in overnight.
     
    #421     Mar 21, 2014
  2. I wonder how did you manage to see that? were you visiting at the middle of the night? :D
     
    #422     Mar 22, 2014
  3. baglunch

    baglunch

    Just meeting a friend after work.

    Most of the theft you hear about is some ex trader or quant stealing code and trying to take it to their new job.
     
    #423     Mar 22, 2014
  4. those are key words :D
     
    #424     Mar 22, 2014
  5. baglunch

    baglunch

    This is very true, the bad thieves are caught printing code and copying files, the good thieves memorize code and steal ideas but call it "work experience".
     
    #425     Mar 22, 2014
  6. the question is, what will hft scum do when the game is shut down

    1) mug little old ladies

    2) sell herbalife products

    3) kill themselves

    Vote here ___
     
    #426     Mar 31, 2014
  7. pedro01

    pedro01

    I am sure that there's long term investors that though those pesky day traders were scum.

    And yet, here we still are.

    HTF does not implicitly mean cheating, although no doubt some firms push the boundaries.

    I think you are in danger of throwing the baby out with the bathwater,
     
    #427     Mar 31, 2014
  8. Yes. HFT's are just daytraders in form of algorithms. Ethics is relative in this thing called capital markets. Rules will change, but intraday liquidity (HFT's, MM's, daytraders) will never go away, obviously.
     
    #428     Mar 31, 2014
  9. Big difference... HFTs are liquidity-sucking leaches that can only exist by front-running orders thru various tactics used. They create no liquidity, they contribute nothing. Just parasitic drains on the markets. The "liquidity" HFTs supposedly create is an illusion and outright sham.

    Any HFT that experienced 1200+ profitable days and 1 losing day are parasitic thieves and nothing more. Legal or otherwise is merely semantics of existing law.

    Day traders who operate inside the actual order flow serve to create liquidity. Participation = contribution to greater liquidity instead of parasitic = net drain of liquidity.
     
    #429     Mar 31, 2014
  10. Dont feed the troll. He is repeating same jokes for ages. He isnt seeking an honest discussion.. Just another internet troll. Replying you only chance to bloat this thread to something unreadable (perhaps its his objective)..
     
    #430     Mar 31, 2014