Hey Ratboy

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by WAEL012000, Aug 8, 2007.

  1. Hi Ratboy;

    I have some questions for you and for everyone who is interested to reply. I chose you due to your support for the libertarian movement.

    The questions are as follows;

    1- What is the opinion of the movement in regard to big business (conglomerates)?

    2- What is the opinion of the movement in regard to government?

    3- What is the opinion of the movement in regard the relationship between the US government and big business and the role of big business in influencing the US's foreign policy?

    and finally,

    4- could you comment on the following statement by General Butlar through the eyes of the libertarian movement.

    "“I spent 33 years … being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism….

    “I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1916. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City [Bank] boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the rape of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street….

    “In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested…. I had … a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, promotions…. I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three cities. The Marines operated on three continents.” (p. 93)


    Thanks man!
  2. libertarian no good Wael...

    have a quick read of Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand), a lenghty tome for sure but one that can safely be fast-forwarded, to get a feel for the ideological foundations... thats a good book for passionate teen-agers, nothing more...

    and the rest of it, the "austrian" economists and all their verbose crap, is barely good enough to run a small village in a 3rd world shariah-law country, or in some christian reconstructionist stronghold in the US, same bullshit... (no offense meant)
  3. well.. i hate to disappoint you but i am not a libertarian. i know ron paul was and still follows many of their principles but actually rearden is more "libertarian" than i am. i just like ron paul and some of his major positions. anti-war... anti-big govt...anti-fed reserve... anti-IRS... pro-constitution. i am less enthusiastic about his position on drug legalization, although i am open to learning more about it.

    i am a conservative independent. Bush senior turned me against Republicans when he lied to saddam through april glaspie and gave him the green light to attack Kuwait. then you had the fake satellite pics and the fake incubator story. i knew they were war criminals then... thats when i woke up and left the republican party.
  4. ratboy knows the score...god bless him..
  5. I agree with you 2cents I get the feeling the libertarian movement is one bordering on anarchy.

    I also do sense some hostility toward big business and multi national corporations. something that I share with them.
  6. Not that many people know about April Glaspie. I have to give it to you man.

    Speaking of Rearden...Where is he??
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  8. yup, anarcho-capitalism, i.e. robber baron capitalism of early last century style, is the main foundation of the libertarian movement... that's also why these mofos hate the idea of a central bank: with the ginormous reduction in information asymetry provided by modern central banks, there is hardly any scope at all for robber barons to squeeze the markets as they used to be able to in the past... hence all the propaganda to garner popular support to remove the central banking controls in order to "free" the markets, ie allow these guys to shake the markets and screw everybody else as before... pathetic...

    am no big biz, big gov supporter either by the way... but if the alternative is a return to early 20th century capitalism, then thats not very serious...
  9. I agree with you 2cents I get the feeling the libertarian movement is one bordering on anarchy.
    lol, I can't believe there is something the three of us can agree on.

    I also do sense some hostility toward big business and multi national corporations. something that I share with them.
    No they are not hostile to big business, quite the opposite, libertarians want to remove all governmental rules, laws, regulations and restrictions from corporations, they are also against the antitrust laws. A corporation is destroying the environment - no problem in Libertarianland as there is no EPA, an airline is cutting corners on safety and maintanance - that's fine with the movement as well as neither FAA nor government mandated safety/mainanance standards exist, a manufacturing company is exploiting children in Africa, China (or the US) and sell their goods in this country - that's ok too as there is no labor department and labor laws under libertarian rule... Most libertarians also support open borders/immigration.
  10. He's absorbed and immersed in his work. This volatility is awesome!

    One August 2007 day, presents more opportunity to capitalize than 15 or 20 regular days. I'll even go as far as saying; this is the best trading market since the Golden Age.
    #10     Aug 13, 2007