hey HFT scum, yeah, you. Watch this

Discussion in 'Trading' started by stock777, May 26, 2010.

  1. The bots sure won the day today, didn't they?
     
    #271     Jun 17, 2010
  2. today? they win every day.
     
    #272     Jun 17, 2010
  3. jajuanm2

    jajuanm2

    Do pit traders front run?
     
    #273     Jun 17, 2010
  4. einai

    einai

    Pretty much by definition...
     
    #274     Jun 17, 2010
  5. Not true at all. Besides there aren't really any more pit traders around.

    It is the brokerage companies that have trading wings (Goldman, IB, Knight, etc...) or relationships with trading companies (Etrade with Citidel for instance) or the companies that operate dark pools (such as Knight and Getco) that are abusing current market structure loopholes, allowing them to effectively front run your orders. They are not front-running as it is currently legally defined though--which is the problem.

    Internalization and weak regnms rules also allow these same companies to steal liquidity from the marketplace by sub penny-ing your limit order. This allows them to coat-tail the price discovery of the displayed market, internalize the liquidity they want, and use the market displayed order as a backstop to any potential losses.

    None of this should be allowed.
     
    #275     Jun 17, 2010
  6. Hey , if we don't let these guys cheat, lie , steal, and pillage, how are they going to make a decent profit?
     
    #276     Jun 17, 2010
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Looks to be in the beginning stages of a wave A of a ABC correction so I'd wait a little for more upside before adding to any shorts.
     
    #277     Jun 17, 2010
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  8. That depends on which type of HFT you are running, right?

    And if you operate in NYC and mainly thru NYSE, then depending on your strategies, you probably don't need colocation...
     
    #278     Jun 20, 2010
  9. Any good cost-efficient colocation recommendation for futures exchanges in Chicago?
     
    #279     Jun 20, 2010
  10. May I ask what colocation service are you using?

    Thanks
     
    #280     Jun 20, 2010