He's Obama! He's Black! So, Shut Up!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by bugscoe, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. Dude you need to throw your TV out the window and get out and walk around more.

     
    #21     Jun 23, 2010
  2. Mav88

    Mav88

    dude you need to quit drinking
     
    #22     Jun 23, 2010
  3. I may begin to drink again if I find that my peers and patriots and people that I know begin to affect society with this 1870's attitude:

    "along with their consistent underperformance in the art of civilization, means that full integration will be impossible."


     
    #23     Jun 23, 2010
  4. Yannis

    Yannis

    This all sounds a little bit too much touchy-feely to me. Yes, there are very legitimate human feelings, hangups, history, prejudice, concern, etc issues. But, there's also a huge and growing "minority/underdog 'protection' industry" that gives me pause. The likes of Al Sharpton, Donna Brazil, Rev Wright, Obama, et al may not be happy if all "race" issues disappeared tomorrow, because that's their livelihood, and a lot of money changes hands there. I'm not a cynic, but I'm thinking that they may want/need an oppressed underclass, for the power, prestige and money in it. If one (eg, blacks) is dissolving into acceptance or improved equality, they may be tempted to create and represent another, eg, illegal immigrants.
     
    #24     Jun 23, 2010
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    You are correct in the sense that it's true all bureaucracies tend to become self-perpetuating, and that is a problem. It's also a problem that centuries after this obvious flaw in our thinking was put to paper people are still hating based on skin color alone. They claim it's not "alone" though, by fallaciously pointing out that all (or most) people of that color act in a certain way, or they try to justify their position with a specious appeal to averages and statistics. Of course, all that just makes this process also self-perpetuating. Lao Tsu might have said, "prejudice and 'anti-prejudice' arise mutually."
     
    #25     Jun 23, 2010
  6. Yannis

    Yannis

    The way I like to say more or less the same thing is to observe that whether one is pulling OR pushing something, he's still attached to it.
     
    #26     Jun 23, 2010
  7. It would be axiomatic to an astute reader of history that a perceived "oppressed underclass," has existed through history in all times regardless of race. The American Experiment is no different. If you feel that there is "underclass protection industry," then it's your right it ignore it. Or you can choose to engage it and inflame it.

     
    #27     Jun 23, 2010
  8. Yannis

    Yannis

    What I've learned during my life is that I may be able to do something for a large group of people, sometimes, but I can always change and improve myself. But change what? It's hard to tell. I have always had black friends, especially a rather large group of vaguely related Jamaican Americans who worked with me in Bell Labs, and over the years I have never been able to tell the difference between them and whites, other than their looks. They are as smart, creative, family oriented, stubborn and obnoxious as everybody else I know. Same with friends from South India who took care of both of our children when those two were very young. For the most part, imo, race differences are truly skin-deep, not really worth paying attention to. Until an idiot bigot throws a brick through someone else's window during a party, like it happened to my Indian friends...
     
    #28     Jun 23, 2010
  9. The real issues are money and power. The Leftist government likely doesn't give a flip about the ones they appear to be championing for... so long as the Leftists are in power and get their share of the vig, they're happy.

    So, why be a Leftist? Because it's an easy sell.

    On the one hand campaigners could promise "small government, protection of individual freedoms, respect for personal property, low taxes, and they they wouldn't impede your opportunity to achieve whatever you want." IOW... "work hard, enjoy the fruits of your labors, and the government won't interfere".

    On the other hand campaigners could promise, "vote for me, and the government will take care of you... give you lots of benefits.... you won't even have to work for them". This always sounds good to about half of the population (and certainly better than "opportunity to work hard, keep what you earn"), and they're willing to vote for freebies.

    It's a wonder America as a free society has lasted as long as it has. :(
     
    #29     Jun 23, 2010
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    #30     Jun 23, 2010