Hershey's Equity thread

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by oddiduro, Aug 21, 2003.

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  1. bubba7

    bubba7

    okay I pegged the RS and EPS as THE MOST IMPORTANT STUFF.

    You are a good test case for this place.

    with 51 you have too short a list lower the EPS and the RS to make the list longer. get a corrolation for yourself on the change of EPS to get a change in list length.

    get the list right and get the three lists and go to clearstation. Clearstation is a web site for porfolios and doing bulking
    Bulking means going through bunches of charts very fast. i fill in sheets to get the ranks Assessment sheets.

    Just stay up all night and do the 3 lists of 10.
     
    #71     Aug 22, 2003
  2. bubba7

    bubba7

    They are not in consolidation . They are on support and at the bottom of the cycle.. Who gives a fuck about consolidation.

    i am proud of you. You worked through it. You have so much baggage it is incredible.

    read chapter 20 in HTMMIS. and make a chart of all 18 fuck ups there

    They are referred to as the 18 most common mistakes. I will score trend fader for everyone in ET as an example of screwing upo for year after year.

    for the ones you have please give me a game plan for curing each nad every one of them. Pronto.

    i am leaving now so i do not have to read it later tonight.

    you are a millionaire. get with it and do it.
     
    #72     Aug 22, 2003
  3. I hope it's O.K. to join in. I just came across this thread. It looks promising. I just wanted to make sure I'm on the same page as everyone else in terms of the short list of stocks. Using 90+ for the EPS and RS, and >$10 for stock price, and Vol >200k, and sorting by Vol%Ch, and after exporting into an Excel format, and filtering for only those stocks with + price change, I found a total of 10. SGMA; MVL; LEXR; MATK; OVTI; CCBI; ECLG; OXM, RATE; UPFC

    Is this the correct list so far?
     
    #73     Aug 22, 2003
  4. This is my chance to vent.

    I was reading this thread while I was busy missing a 16 point move in the ES. I caught at the start, thanks to your classwork, but I made a mistake somewhere and got shaken out way up at 1005. 3.5 points out of 16. I failed to hold through the first VDU.

    You have adjusted my vision to where this was simply unacceptable, so I was reading this thread in a very distracted state of mind.

    Coloring the key concepts would still help though. The version one and version two set up for this would be ideal also, but I know we have too much on the table right now, as Labor Day is barrelling down upon us.
     
    #74     Aug 22, 2003
  5. Moz

    Moz

    Thanks Jack for hanging in there with us, I've been a long time reader and cannot believe I am at this point right now. Will be up to speed by Monday.
     
    #75     Aug 23, 2003
  6. bubba7

    bubba7

    I had a long phone call on that VDU and one other matter. We are very close to not missing a trick.

    I have been really wanting to let loose to.

    I will move to a more steady focus along with you. It was hard to do a great job considering the mid week lateral low volume and low volatility. You are debriefing as you need to and that keeps a very high QA for the future.

    Labor day is getting close and I need to get the stuff done ahead of that as a major focus.

    Your first two ES paragraphs are important. I believe with full focus on the trade you would have sat through the VDU with stops up to snuff and then you would have held through. the money velocity was going well all the way to 1000. The stop log only ever takes you to a "tight stop" as a consquence of using fast pace to set the off set. As it sat there on the IT is did not come back. It stayed inside the last high volatility bar during midday.

    We are getting really close to the Fall start up of the market and it actually will be a relief to be out of the doldrums.

    You are correct to set the ES standard you do. This interposing of the restart on the stocks divided our attention.

    You are correct to think that 3.5 is not the target on any day. that is that. To see it in the context of 16 is also correct. It will be difficult to not stay focused in the future. You will be on the ball after this date. This is not the first time this has come up in ET and for you it is the last time.

    You are in a good place debriefing wise. The issue was focus. You have the drill locked in. Taking the ride required attention to the details and letting the rules work.

    I am complimenting your viewpoint and what it portends. you could not have made a better post.

    Personally I am trying to not use a particular word any more. If I get past a little frustration here I will get way ahead.

    Leg 6 of the quarter ended and we are in a new IT leg finding the channel width by getting the 1,2,3 of the IT leg. This past leg was very very high quality learning for the IT channel reference of the intraday trading.

    Thanks for venting and conveying clearly the thoughts you have.
     
    #76     Aug 23, 2003
  7. bubba7

    bubba7

    I am a little less tense here so I will be pleasant.

    Good lift off and first pass. No, you are not with the program.

    I do not want you to filter for stocks only having a + price change.

    What you must do is go to Stocktables.com and use it and get the list length correct. I do not know how to make Stocktables.com red and make it take you there by posting.

    I am doing a tricky tricky thing here.

    If you let me, I can get you to a point where you have three lists of stocks(10 each and selected from a list of about 100) that are operating around the trough of the natural cycle for individual stocks.

    We know that you have to loosen the EPS and RS from Bagger's post. You do that to get about 100 stocks.

    You print the list and punch three holes in it. It goes in a binder.

    My typing this is a usual thing. I also have to have a Saturday morning first breakfast with people and hear how they didn't get it done band what they did as a better alternative. whatever.

    What we want to do here is make money so we get the money making list sort of down cold and perfectly flawless. It is no big deal when you know how to do it.

    No one here has done a sort like this before. The reason is that no one thought up what to do to make money at the rate this list sets you up to make money.

    If they did do that, we would know because of the incessant flaming they would be getting. It just hasn't been done.

    To get a list to break into three parts (there are more but not for now), you follow the directions.

    I am trying to get people to be rich. You will be if you think and do a few things correctly.

    This is not a harrange. I am simply suggesting that it is necessary to have the correct list to make money and the incorrect list will not work as well.

    About 100% of the stocks on the list will make money. Trend trader makes less on his 35% that make money than any of those on the three lists you may be able to pull this weekend maybe.

    Someone will tell us the correct EPS and RS values to get going with. Bagger has them and isn't telling as yet. Maybe someone will set up Clearstation.com with three named public acccess lists of ten stocks each. We do not know if there are any people in ET who are able to do this as yet. I know there will be soon.

    Please try to follow the directions and then post the three lists here and we will see if you did it correctly.

    You are making normal progress.
     
    #77     Aug 23, 2003
  8. You can get 98 by lowering the RS to 80+, or get 79 by lowering the PE to 80+. If you lower both you get 157.
     
    #78     Aug 23, 2003
  9. bubba7

    bubba7

     
    #79     Aug 23, 2003
  10. Jack, I'm watching you for years now but I've not yet see you do one single deal. As you assured us, you are no fraud. So see you do plenty of deals every day from Labor Day on.

    Good old JPM (if I remember) couldn't stand con men either. Did he not say something like:

    "He who peddles what he does not have better starts to deal or go to jail".

    Yours truly,

    nononsense[​IMG]

    PS I got myself a ringbinder bubby. It's still empty but I promise you to work on it like Baggerlord.
     
    #80     Aug 23, 2003
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