Here is a strategy that beats the S&P

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by K-Pia, May 13, 2016.

  1. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    The market can't be beaten ...
    I see nothing than a generality ...
    When trading is about peculiarity ...
    I don't understand the value it has ...

    Comparing a strategy from it's underlying ?
    It's based on the same time frame, daily.
    I've a derivative that beats its parent.
    Buy & Hold otherwise, or trash it.
    No need to suffer for worse ...
    Get it ? Well it's flawed.

    Since past performance,
    Isn't indicative of future ones.
    And I am not a "Pro". See my threads.
    Not profitable. However we're all learning,
    Due to whatever change in the basic conditions.
    Buzzwords attract people. Which in turn attract criticism.
    That's the good point about them. It brings feedbacks.

    But yeah ... One doesn't have to beat anything.
    Just to build a derivative that satisfies one's preferences.
    But what if the derivative is less pleasant than the underlying ?
    That's why I compare. To see if there is value in the effort.
    I wouldn't buy and hold. Because it does not satisfy me.
    So I try to turn the underlying into something better.
    Analyze the derivative, the underlying & compare.
     
    #31     May 15, 2016
  2. Handle123

    Handle123

    To Be or Not to Be, That is the Question. I don't think we try to beat the market, I think beating ourselves is best we can hope to gain. One of the hardest things to do is Trading your Trading Plan without making any changes. Once you can do this, you on your way to being profitable providing your Trading Plan is well backtested and forward tested. I often think the better traders are those who don't have high IQ's but can follow their plan. You want to be smart enough to design a profitable Trading Plan and thereafter have the brain size of a snail and just follow the Plan.
     
    #32     May 15, 2016
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  3. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    I've got 110 IQ.
    Not smart enough. Not dumb enough.
    So I guess I can just dream about being normal ?!
    Or I can try to lose neurons ... Or push 'Em a little more.
    Well ... I think that 10K hours of screen time could arrange that.
     
    #33     May 15, 2016
  4. Simples

    Simples

    Very simply: If all we can hope for is some index return, just buy a derivative of that index.

    This is disregarding true bear markets..
     
    #34     May 15, 2016
  5. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    Actually, to plot a strategy against its underlying.
    Help you to see how it performs under what conditions.
     
    #35     May 15, 2016
  6. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    IQ means naught..is but a thought
    the sense is best..when common test
    we all do talk..but few do walk
    the road that be..towards profitability

    a thousand times..been said in rhymes
    things never change..as most so strange
    a few do know..why is this so
    to make it see..go read History!

    the question beat..why things repeat
    and answer lie..in front of eye
    the eye is but..for the input
    and brain you see..is really Key

    so when you look..forget the book
    learn how to see..what will be will be
    and know for sure..one thing is pure
    a virtue be..patience YOU SEE!

    J_S
     
    #36     May 15, 2016
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  7. J_Smith

    J_Smith

    J_S did show..one tick below
    two zero three nine..straight yellow line
    fact now is long..maybe nice song
    but am aware..can still be bear

    if go below..where J_S show
    then time to bail..to stop the wail
    for why the heck..risk break my neck
    if reverse tick..tis easy click!

    the prob might be..too tight you see
    must risk a few..to be like Jew
    for Jew well know..to make it so
    one must endure..ignore the lure

    there is no need..to take much heed
    of what most say..same everyday:rolleyes:
    the fact it be..must trade you see
    as time will show..what Jew do know:thumbsup:

    J_S

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    #37     May 15, 2016
  8. Holy crap enough with the @#$%ing haikus and just write a concise intelligent post...
     
    #38     May 15, 2016
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  9. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    Here is another one.
    90% of the time, the ES goes Open +0.5 and Open -0.5 !!!!
    That's a crazy risk free strategy. It gives a point per day.

    Kiddin'
    Facts are true,
    But it ain't profitable AT ALL
    Please do not reproduce it at home.
     
    #39     May 16, 2016
  10. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    @J_Smith
    How did you come about catchin' that falling knife ?
     
    #40     May 16, 2016