Here Comes The US VAT Tax....

Discussion in 'Economics' started by libertad, Sep 30, 2009.

  1. When I was beginning my work career, the thought of working for the government was a big "Ewwwww... for losers".

    NOW look what' we've got. :mad: :mad:
     
    #11     Sep 30, 2009
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    It still is for LOSERS !!!!!


    LOSERS AND WHORES !!!!!!!!!
     
    #12     Sep 30, 2009
  3. True. Wouldn't be able to get clean if I thought about being a "parasite... producing NOTHING, just sucking the blood of the hard working and productive".
     
    #13     Sep 30, 2009
  4. I really don't have a problem with the VAT - IF it replaced the current income tax system (or at least exempted most from income tax). But they would stack this VAT on top of our current income tax system:(

    Has anyone read this book?

    http://www.amazon.com/100-Million-U...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254338109&sr=1-1

    -Guru
     
    #14     Sep 30, 2009
  5. clacy

    clacy

    VAT = Political Suicide for Dems

    There is no way they could possibly pass a VAT. Look at how hard Americans are fighting against healthcare.

    It would literally make the Dems the minority party for two decades if they were to cram something like this down our throats.
     
    #15     Sep 30, 2009
  6. Another reason to support a VAT, not enough rope to hang all these clowns :p
     
    #16     Sep 30, 2009
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    1000% Correct....

    There should only be a 15% C tax....

    10% to the state
    5% to the FED

    No other taxes

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    Why ?

    Because this would "over night" by the stroke of a pen enable more head on price competition with BRIC....

    Eliminate the IRS

    The two party joke of a democracy by
    advertising political lobbyist system would be eliminated by default....because the states not the FED would control all expenditures...

    Corps. from all over the world would have to domicile in the US to remain competitive.....and jobs would be produced such that there would be a shortage of workers....

    What does the US govt. do...?

    Just the opposite.....

    And by doing so....tax revenues would explode to the upside....


    Which is better .....70% of 1000....

    or 15% of several $Trillion....


    The US govt. Harvard Queens think that 70% of 1000 > 15% of several $Trillion....

    The US govt. thinks that it is better to suppress human freedoms rather than enhance them....

    You decide.....
     
    #17     Sep 30, 2009
  8. CET

    CET

    There is little chance the Dems will support a VAT, because it will have a much larger impact on lower income people.
     
    #18     Sep 30, 2009
  9. pitz

    pitz

    With tax revenues from capital gains, and from dividends, almost completely drying up, along with declining income tax revenues -- where else is the government going to get any money other than taxxing consumption directly??

    The beast is rapidly starving itself, by having eaten all of the plants that could have provided the seeds for future growth.
     
    #19     Sep 30, 2009
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    1000% correct .....


    check this out...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_around_the_world

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    If one wants to/has to.... compete via a manufacturing base....

    Then one must do so from a competitive edge....

    A 10/5 C tax would out compete most peers on this list....

    This is not complicated....

    Another area that has to be reduced is legal largess....ie why John Edwards ambulance chaser has money....

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    There would be no IRS

    No need or use for tax havens

    There would be labor shortages in the US....all corps. would have to have a US domicile to be competitive....

    The initial downward $ movement would even make the US more competitive in the LR....

    The US would enter its GOLDEN AGE....
    the likes of which it has never experienced before....

    Never before has human freedom been
    greater than it would be in the new tax system....

    The two party lobbyist system would be replaced by state mandates....

    And the tax take would dwarf needed
    revenue tables....


    Add Glass Stegal....

    Provide a new direct access electronic securties exchange that is based on BATS....de-fragmented....

    Then Presto....A New US....
     
    #20     Sep 30, 2009