Herbalife (HLF) Exposed!

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by lwlee, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Sure nothing technical here, I was just lucky 2 weeks ago when I said:

    Let's get back to this stock in 1-2 weeks, shall we? As a minimum I expect it to go back to the SMA line, which is around $41....
     
    #151     Jan 30, 2013
  2. volente_00

    volente_00

    No support til 27 on chart


    might revert back to 40 by option expiration to smoke some put buyers
     
    #152     Jan 30, 2013
  3. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I am probably going to jinx it, but what the hell. The stock has bounced from 34.7 and currently is at $37.4
     
    #153     Jan 30, 2013
  4. Ackman 1, Icahn 0
     
    #154     Jan 30, 2013
  5. m22au

    m22au

    I might be missing something here. But I don't see how Ackman has "won", assuming that he is still holding his short position.

    Although HLF has done poorly since the FTC press conference about Fortune Hi-Tech on Monday 28th, HLF has not (yet) been subject to any investigation.

    Assuming that remains the case, then HLF remains a business that is profitable and viable for now, and likely to remain so for the next 2 or more years.
     
    #155     Jan 30, 2013
  6. how so? Until he closes his position?
     
    #156     Jan 30, 2013
  7. Andiroo

    Andiroo

    This is why the shorts are winning. Red Sea or Sea of Red.
     
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    #157     Jan 30, 2013
  8. m22au

    m22au

    It you had done a chart of HLF on 16 December, it would have shown a massive rise from the December climatic bottom. I suppose then the conclusion would have been "the longs are winning".

    Furthermore, investors who bought HLF below $30 are still sitting on large gains, despite the losses seen so far this week.

    My point is - it's too early to say that any investor (long or short) with a multi-month or multi-year timeframe has "won".
     
    #158     Jan 30, 2013
  9. It's like a baseball score.

    AFAIK, Ackman has been shorting since the low to mid 50s. The recent low is $26. There is little doubt that Pershing is up a lot more on his short (20MM shares) than Icahn is up on his long. Icahn has not filed so the positions must be (relatively) small.
     
    #159     Jan 30, 2013
  10. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    I am surprised that nobody was getting a hard on a few days ago when the stock briefly tanked 14% in the morning (on some BS news), just to finish back in the green.

    Today is the second day in a week when the market is tanking and HLF is nicely up. As I said, nice bounce from the lower BB on the daily chart.... It also reached the SMA line (my minimum expectation)what came down to $37 (was at 41 a week ago).
     
    #160     Feb 7, 2013