Help with my 1st GUN purchase

Discussion in 'Politics' started by PiggyBank, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Yes, but you were prone :) And it's BRASS (slack being the first S).

    Edit: never mind, I see the good Captain has already clarified.
     
    #61     Jan 10, 2013
  2. I suspect you are talking about an awful lot of practice to engage those skills in a real gunfight.


    I have a friend that is a blackwater type sniper.
    Basically says marksmanship casually firing on the range has nothing to do with real life.

    At least the body has to be under some duress to get an idea how well you'll do.
    I'm not an expert but if you're not Practicing while short of breath I'm not sure you're doing anything but increasing your confidence.

    More advanced skill would include vestibular stimulation and SOB, just prior to or during target practice.
     
    #62     Jan 10, 2013
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Absolutely correct. When I practice at this level, I start with the weapon broken down. I have targets set at a particular location, but where I need to fire from is a good quarter mile from where I'm starting. I start the clock, assemble the weapon, run to the engagement point, drop prone and engage the targets, scoring myself on the hit within the time allowed.

    For an added level of difficulty, I've thought of getting someone else to randomly move the targets so I don't know where they are at first, but yes, even with this exercise, it still does not mimic being fired back at.
     
    #63     Jan 10, 2013
  4. Your friend is correct. Many factors come into play which are difficult if not impossible to duplicate. Fatigue, the environment in which you're at, weather in general, under fire or not, wounded yourself, lot's of chaos around you, fear with a capital F, etc. etc. It ain't the rifle range. It ain't simulated war games.
    Snipers have a better opportunity to get as "relaxed" as realisticly possible, but the grunt in the field who is under fire is in more of a point and shoot situation. Hence the need for high capacity magazines and assualt style weaponary.
     
    #64     Jan 10, 2013

  5. Also the killer in the classroom has a need for high capacity magazines and assault style weaponry.
     
    #65     Jan 10, 2013
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Particularly for someone with little or no firearm experience this is not bad advice.
     
    #66     Jan 10, 2013
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Childish
     
    #67     Jan 10, 2013
  8. Interesting chart.. holy fucking 50 BMG!

    Still even though the .308 is a bigger and deadlier round than the .223, we're still talking about rifles. I have to think if the M16/M4 are good enough for our soldiers, then they get the job done. I've seen arguments on other forums that the .223 is underpowered but the way I think about it is the rifles are lighter, shorter, less recoil = more forgiveness for missing. Not that I need to say this, but feel free to point out where I'm wrong.
     
    #68     Jan 10, 2013
  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Then why were they breaking out mothballed M14's in Iraq a few years ago? :)
     
    #69     Jan 10, 2013
  10. making a statement.. lol. To whom? certainly not anon handles on the interwebs.

    Few people will even know I have this (assuming I can actually get one), but like i said several times in this thread already - I'm not all that concerned about home defense. I want a gun, and after doing some research, I like the ar-15. Now, you can call that an ignorant statement since I don't even know how to shoot and I can't really argue, but I fail to see how the ar-15 isn't useful for practical purposes.
     
    #70     Jan 10, 2013