Help! Home for sale!

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by eagle488, Dec 11, 2006.

  1. Help! Home for sale - the Williamses
    An Indiana couple trapped by a so-slow market.
    By Les Christie, CNNMoney.com staff writer
    December 11 2006: 12:45 PM EST
    NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Karen and Jerod Williams do not act rashly especially when buying houses. They tried to minimize their financial risks. And they live in one of the most affordable housing markets in the country, which, again, decreases their risk.

    Despite their care, they're suffering in the current slow housing environment.

    They bought a new home early this year, at a time when the housing market in Huntington, Indiana, their home town, was purring along, slow but steady. They then listed their old home for sale, but shortly afterward the market stalled and they haven't found a buyer. It's been nine months.

    "We didn't think it would ever take this long," says Karen. "If we had, we would not have bought the new house."

    The market turned south quickly, according to Karen.

    "We had two open houses early on five weeks apart," she says. "The first attracted two serious buyers, the second, nobody."

    Two homes - too much
    So now, the family, burdened with the work and expense of two homes, are at the limits of their budget, even though they both make good salaries. He's a machinist and she a manufacturing engineer.

    They have three young children Darcy, 4, Sloane, 3 and Nolan, 5 months, to support and school debt and motor vehicles to pay for. At the end of the month, there's nothing extra.

    "Any emergency may lead to bankruptcy," says Karen.

    The family has already suffered through one such crisis; an emergency c-section needed when Nolan was born last July. Karen had scheduled a six-week maternity leave but she needed a full eight weeks to recover.

    "I hadn't planned for the extra two weeks and it really set us back," she says.

    Great start but too small
    The couple's first house was small but sweet: a three bedroom, one-and-a-half bath wood frame of more than 1,050 square feet.They bought it for $80,000 in 2002, shortly after their wedding.

    It has a separate dining room, detached garage, utility shed, big front porch and central air. The interior was extensively renovated in the early 1990s and features crown moldings and natural woodwork throughout.

    The place sits on a quarter acre in Huntington, a city surrounded by rich farm fields that calls itself a "clean, safe and prosperous community."

    The Williamses enjoyed living there until it got too small after Karen had the two girls. They love the new ranch house they bought, especially because it's on one level, which saves on stairs-climbing.

    Plus, it's nearly two-and-a-half times as big as the old one. Even so, it cost only $110,000. They moved in April. When they went to sell the first one, they hoped to get what they paid for it four years earlier.

    In nine months, they've already reduced the price twice; they're now asking $69,900. Even if they get that, and that's looking unlikely, they'll still lose a substantial amount on the transaction - especially factoring in selling costs and the $500 a month they have paid out as the house has stood empty.

    "Originally," says Karen, "our goal was to make enough money to pay off my student loans and my van and leave enough to put down a good chunk on the new house."

    Plans
    Their contract with the real estate agent ends in March, so they think they will keep the house on the market until then. Their agent advises them to wait out the market.

    They may do that. As Karen says, "We don't have a lot of options. The only way we have made it this far is by daytrading Jim Cramer's stock picks from the Mad Money show and pumping&dumping stocks on the Yahoo financial board."

    If it doesn't sell between now and spring, they may take it off the market and do a little re-modeling before re-listing.

    One idea they're toying with is updating the kitchen - last renovated in the 1980s - with new cupboards and counters. They would do the job themselves with moderate-quality Home Depot products. It should not be expensive.

    Karen doesn't think the project would add much value to the house. The hope is that it could make the difference in selling it at all. For her, the sooner they sell, the better.

    "My husband and I will soon be in the desperation phase," she says. "All we have now is Jim Cramer and the Yahoo financial board where we slave day and night pumping worthless stocks."
     
  2. What are you into writing new endings to stories now?
    http://money.cnn.com/2006/12/11/real_estate/help_the_Williams/index.htm?postversion=2006121112

    Plans

    Their contract with the real estate agent ends in March, so they think they will keep the house on the market until then. Their agent advises them to wait out the market.

    They may do that. As Karen says, "We don't have a lot of options."

    If it doesn't sell between now and spring, they may take it off the market and do a little re-modeling before re-listing.

    One idea they're toying with is updating the kitchen - last renovated in the 1980s - with new cupboards and counters. They would do the job themselves with moderate-quality Home Depot products. It should not be expensive.

    Karen doesn't think the project would add much value to the house. The hope is that it could make the difference in selling it at all. For her, the sooner they sell, the better.

    "My husband and I will soon be in the desperation phase," she says.
     
  3. get used to readin about this for the next 2 years

    they lucky thier homes only 100k a pop

    come down here to miami ..each condo is 400 a pop

    also...pretty funny adding to the story....hehe
     
  4. Speaking of homes, we tried to do a flip around March..some time last year. Spent 60 g's in renovation, plus the 250 k for the home...still did not sell. Market sucks right now.
     
  5. House turn overs slowed down alot here also in central fl . But prices only dropped about 10% from peak . I guess people arent too desperate yet to drop there prices. Next year will be do or die , if we could only read the future like " Miss Cleo "
     

  6. Not for long!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. S2007S

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    80k and 110k, wow.....

    Thats considered cheap where I am from. 1 bedroom apartments 10 minutes from me go for $365,000. You can buy 3 houses where they live for the price of 1 bedroom apartment. $500 to carry it. HA. Studios around here go for $550-700 a month.


    As for the overall story. You cant feel bad because sooner or later the market was going to turn south. I'm sure when they bought their new house for $110,000 they actually thought they would get 85k-90k for their other house. This is happening to many many people who bought other houses for investment purposes and have no use to flip or even hold onto them as the price of their 2nd, 3rd and 4th investments drop in value. The best bet is to reduce the price and get out as quick as possible even if they have to sell the house they bought for $80,000 for 55k-60k.
     
  8. S2007S

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    400k a pop, that 400k should be worth about $360k by early to mid 2007 and by end of 2007 they will be lucky to give them away for $315k.
     
  9. The article would have been boring if I had just left it alone. I thought adding the Jim Cramer touches made it a little more fun.
     
  10. Don't get me started on home prices.

    A 1200 square foot home in an area with an hour of traffic each way goes for $575 K on Oahu. :(
     
    #10     Dec 20, 2006