Hell is more real than you think! THE PROOF that God exists.

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by AppleMan, Oct 3, 2020.

  1. That is very interesting.

    The book of Daniel predicts the timing of the Messiah's arrival on the earth and also His death. There could not be any tampering with this, because there is a copy of this book in existence before Jesus was born. Jesus came when Daniel prophesied He would. “Know therefore and understand, That from the going forth of the command To restore and build Jerusalem Until Messiah the Prince, There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; The street shall be built again, and the wall, Even in troublesome times.And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself.." Daniel 9:25, 26a

    Daniel 9:26
    9:26 Messiah be cut off. If the 483-year period began in 446 B.C., its terminus would seem to be in A.D. 37. However, there is much evidence that what might be called a “prophetic year” was 360 days instead of 365�. The original created year was apparently twelve 30-day months (compare Genesis 7:11, 24; 8:3, 4). Also, the year associated with the end-times seems to be the same (Revelation 11:2-3). If this factor were applied to the 70-week prophecy, then 483 calendar years would only be 476 prophetic years. Allowing for the fact that Jesus was actually born about 4 B.C. (this was the date when King Herod died, soon after Jesus was born), then the terminal date of the prophecy becomes sometime in A.D. 30, the year when Jesus was between 33 and 34 years of age. This, of course, is the year of His crucifixion, when He was “cut off, but not for Himself.” This prophecy was given in about 536 B.C., well over half a millennium before its fulfillment. The probability that Daniel could guess the date of the manifestation and crucifixion of the Messiah is essentially zero. Only supernatural inspiration can account for fulfilled prophecies like this. In fact, these events were fulfilled almost two centuries even after the date assigned to Daniel by liberal scholars who deny that such prophecies can be valid!
    https://www.icr.org/books/defenders/4978
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    #81     Mar 24, 2022
  2. I was saying we need a pre-200 BC Daniel scroll.
     
    #82     Mar 24, 2022
  3. Oops, I didn't read it carefully. I'll edit my post above. Thanks.
     
    #83     Mar 24, 2022
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  4. themickey

    themickey

    That would be right, a curse tablet is part of sorcery.
    That seems to fit, (Jewish) religion and the love of God / Yahweh and all that. Yeah makes perfect sense. :)
    God, Jews, religion, curses, sorcery, written in lead, nice combinations. :)
     
    #84     Mar 25, 2022
  5. stu

    stu


    Oh! so I'm off ignore eh? welllll... ok, I forgive you:D


    For goodness sake, instead of being in font -1,000 at the end, even the article's headline does the usual ass covering
    "...but findings have not been peer-reviewed." erm no sh*t

    C'mon dude, it's the scientific discipline which makes for proper archaeology that counts. it's not about the so called 'scholars/archaeologists'.

    So unless it ever gets properly verified ( no of course it won’t) it's just another of the countless so called archaeological finds which turn out nothing like what is claimed.

    Overzealous religious apologists in a religious publication (bias much?) who have hold of a bit of cursey voodoo thingy whatever it is, trying to make a name for themselves, achieve some notoriety and turn a buck at the same time. History is full of that.

    But then religious faith has always been good at straw clutching.

    this might help you understand better...
    https://religions.wiki/index.php/The_Bible_is_not_a_reliable_historical_source

    I worry about you, educate yourself:p
     
    #85     Mar 25, 2022
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  6. Does a jury make a person innocent or guilty? No, it declares the person innocent or guilty, but the person may or may not have committed the crime.
    Being peer reviewed cannot make the artifact legit or not. It can help ascertain the likeliness that it is dated correctly. In other words, even if it were not to pass every criteria needed to fully accepted, it could still be an artifact from that time. Just because something is difficult to prove, doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
     
    #86     Mar 25, 2022
  7. Thanks! And I forgive you for posting pictures of dead kittens!! :D Wait, isn't forgiveness suppose to come after repentance? I hope you've repented from that, cuz I really don't want to see any more of those pics. :D
     
    #87     Mar 25, 2022
  8. themickey

    themickey

    This is christianity......
    ANY PERSON, but just for clarity let's use a native in South America......

    A christian missionary visits and says; "If you don't accept my message, when you die, my loving God who created you, will cast you into a burning lake of fire in hell for eternity where you experience eternal pain and anguish".

    "The choice offered is simple, accept my word, accept that you need to conform to me, accept you need to change your culture, accept you need to believe me, accept you need to become dependant on a church, either that or you are doomed for eternity, this is our message of hope for you."

    So the christians are right and everyone else is wrong. :banghead: :vomit:
     
    #88     Mar 25, 2022
  9. I added black for emphasis:

    On the other hand, critical scholars tend to find errors in the Bible where none exist. At bottom, our belief in the infallibility and authority of scripture is a faith-stance, just as our belief in the Deity of Christ is a faith-stance. This does not mean that we have no basis! Nor does it mean that we are obligated to solve all problems to our satisfaction before we can believe. As B. B. Warfield argued long ago, we believe in the accuracy of the Bible, first of all, because the biblical writers themselves both held and taught this view. And if we consider the biblical writers to be trustworthy as doctrinal guides, then their doctrine of the Bible must also be trustworthy.
    https://bible.org/article/problem-l...nsus-taken-when-quirinius-was-governor-syriai
     
    #89     Mar 25, 2022
  10. themickey

    themickey

    If one trades, one will realize very frequently they are wrong.
    But somehow christians with their decisions are never wrong, they make perfect choices 100% of the time.
     
    #90     Mar 25, 2022