Hedging w/Backspreads vs. Protective Puts

Discussion in 'Options' started by jones247, Sep 7, 2009.

  1. spindr0

    spindr0

    Even if you find a situation where market forces have made put premiums higher than call premiums, trying to protect short stock with a call backspread is just as bad an idea.
     
    #11     Sep 8, 2009
  2. spindr0

    spindr0

    It's time to organize an expedition to find Big Foot

    :)
     
    #12     Sep 8, 2009
  3. no need, he's located in a dark pool at 85 Broad St, New York, NY.
     
    #13     Sep 8, 2009
  4. If you don't try, you'll never get it! :)

    However if you try really very hard, you might get it one day, or you might be just always very close to find it without getting it, or you might still never get it! :D
     
    #14     Sep 8, 2009
  5. A black unicorn at that!!
     
    #15     Sep 8, 2009
  6. spindr0

    spindr0

    "It's time to organize an expedition to find Big Foot"


    By any chance is he nicknamed weewilly?

    :)
     
    #16     Sep 8, 2009
  7. spindr0

    spindr0

    Mark posted a good explanation as to why a backspread is a poor choice for hedging long stock.

    In insurance terms...

    1) You can buy good protection (high cost, low deductible)

    2) You can buy poor insurance (low cost, high deductible)

    3) You can add riders that alter (1) and (2) but they change your coverage

    - sell OTM calls to reduce the premium cost (reduces upside profit)

    - overwrite OTM calls and/or bearish spreads (further reducing upside profit, possibly introducing upside risk)


    In more general terms, hedging means giving up something to get something.
    Pick yer poison... :)
     
    #17     Sep 8, 2009
  8. I guess my best bet is a calendar collar... where I dynamically adjust the short calls & the long puts as the value of the derviatives change due to Theta, Vega & Delta.

    Does anyone have extensive experience on calendar collars?

    Walt
     
    #18     Sep 8, 2009
  9. MTE

    MTE

    Dynamic adjustment is expensive so be careful with it.
     
    #19     Sep 8, 2009
  10. True... but dynamic hedging of a calendar collar is probably still my best bet at low cost & low risk hedging of a stock position (long or short)...

    Walt
     
    #20     Sep 8, 2009