Hedging the wheel

Discussion in 'Options' started by markthepadrone, Sep 16, 2022.

  1. Who? I was looking at this one (remove spaces to get the URL):

    https://www. amazon. com/Superior-Persons-Book-Words/dp/0440204070
     
    #131     Sep 17, 2022
  2. Don’t get too heavy on him. He’s only following the terms of his IB agreement where it says he needs to make average people feel that trading is something better left to the professionals. ;)
     
    #132     Sep 17, 2022
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    "The Thinker's Thesaurus" by Peter Meltzer. Wierd my Amazon links not working. Anyways, it's a great read for the upcoming holidays, if you like that sort of thing.
     
    #133     Sep 17, 2022
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  4. Oops. I must of hit a nerve. My IP address was banned. Too funny.
     
    #134     Sep 17, 2022
  5. ET180

    ET180

    Thanks Dest for your thorough response. I appreciate. If you are willing to answer a few follow-up questions...

    By sticky delta, I think you are describing this:

    https://www.math.columbia.edu/~smirnov/Derman.pdf

    But what are global implied volatilities (strips)? The slides seems to describe the change in ATM IV with respect to change in the price of the underlying as following either a sticky-strike, sticky delta, or sticky-tree implied tree model dependent on market conditions (complacent / greed, fear, or correction).

    Also, you mention that the skew is flat, but this looks like strong negative skew (Nov 2022 expiration):

    upload_2022-9-17_23-26-57.png

    I must be missing something. How does this chart predict forward (which I assume means future) volatility? Under the sticky strike model, ATM IV drops as underlying rises in price. Under sticky delta model, ATM IV stays the same as underlying increases in price, IV of strikes close to ATM (local?) rise.
     
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    #135     Sep 18, 2022
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    the 3x has a path dependency the 5x doesn’t.
     
    #136     Sep 18, 2022
  7. BKR88

    BKR88

    I usually roll before the the strike is deep ITM if I don't want to take assignment (short put) or be called away (covered call).
    Roll as soon as price reaches your short strike.
     
    #137     Sep 18, 2022
  8. I'd appreciate it if you could expand on that a little. I thought that only exotics were path dependent.
     
    #138     Sep 18, 2022
  9. destriero

    destriero


    I use a normed RR model across all tenors. There is an arb-condition when the figure reaches 1.8 and we're currently running 1.3 which is bottom three deciles on index skew. Above 2.0 there is an arb-condition in a complex combo. 1.x does not related to pwing/cwing vols. I can't elaborate as I am running a seminar and it's the highlight.

    Strips colloquially as VIX, varswap. (-)spot/vol correlation. Above say 25 sticky strike dominates; below, sticky delta.
     
    #139     Sep 18, 2022
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  10. destriero

    destriero


    I'll have Neww answer, but there is PD in leveraged ETFs and well, vol, when you're discussing time series (tenors).
     
    #140     Sep 18, 2022
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